[Jeff Adams]

Man, this has been driving me nuts. Why did they take dynamic link away? Really, I don’t want to know, and there can’t be a good reason. Adobe sure sucks sometimes, really bad, Encore sucks a lot, so many annoying little quirks!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyways, I’m curious, so now that we’re forced into a different workflow, which really takes a toll on creativity because I may want to readjust some things and not have to rerender to score WHICH OBVIOUSLY ADOBE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT AGAIN.

Back to what I’m curious about, will brining in a rendered project mean I have to render out 2 times now??? I mean, first you render your ppro project to score the audio NOW, and then after you score you have to re-render again???? That’s rediculous to make us have to render out twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Surely this can’t be the case, why would they regress???? I don’t want to know why really, I just want to progress, not go backwards. I swear, so many of these company out there suck soooo bad…. soooooooooo bad….

[Jeff Adams]

Hello! I have been dealing with AVCHD since 2007, which means for me I’ve only been actually editing it since about mid 2008. So, I know how attractive it is to use in a workflow, but I don’t know your workflow or the other person posting. But, I do believe he’s right.

I recently upgraded to a new system that makes After Effects more attractive for me to learn. Despite the fact that I’m using an i7 980X based machine, I am finding rewrapping the AVCHD files into Cineform AVI files attractive for various reasons:

1.) clips are profoundly more fun to edit in Premiere and I am excited to start editing
2.) it’s easier on my system, hey, it has feelings too!
3.) this increase in performance enables me to be more creative

I didn’t want to convert, or rewrap, or whatever it was because back in 2007 or 2008 sometime I tried to do this with some crappy software that was $100 and it took FOREVER and made the files WAY TOO BIG.

But, now I can turn 24 gigs of AVCHD, which is a typical project size, relatively relatively fast an save it to a terabyte drive separate from my primary drive where i store my project media files.

I’m knocking out projects significantly faster this way. I didn’t want to add another step to my workflow but this is worth it!

Cineform makes Neoscene which is a software solution to convert them. However, Adobe Media Encoder will do it I think but mine is having trouble with the audio…

[Jeff Adams]

Yeah, they definitely seem to be the standards, I guess, although I’ve been in the business for over 4 years on my PC. I can’t say it’s been the smoothest road, but I know that no road is smooth, not even on a Mac… it’s funny because a Mac user will boast about how mac’s never lock up, never crash, etc… but yet I’ve seen them lock up and I’ve seen them crash, they’re all the same in that regard.

The only reason I can discern as to why a mac may have less problems is because it’s has less consumer driven crap on it. the PC is for the mass market of consumers generally speaking. And, therefor it needs to be more diverse and with that massive diversity comes the occasional conflicts that macs don’t seem to have because they don’t deal with drivers and what not, but this results in macs not being able to handle certain programs. PC’s seem to get significantly more viruses, but that’s probably because more people have PC’s, so if you’re a bad person trying to hack people for bad reasons then you’re going to have more luck trying to hack a pc, because you have a bigger market of people to hack. But, this in turn makes PC’s potentially (not literally because i really don’t know) stronger, or at least the data protection software, because we’re having to fight harder to protect PC’s within their diverse capabilities.

I’m not an expert on this stuff though, these are just my perspectives. I spent a week with a bunch of Mac users, I was the only one with a PC. I was tripping on them!!! they had the same issues I’ve had with lock ups, rendering times, etc… They definitely seemed to boot and power down faster, probably because they don’t have as many programs. I bet there’s 10 program options for a PC for every 1 program on a mac. It’s kind of like politics or something. Do you give options to create competition and therefore a better service? Or, do you just standardize everything and let the government run it all for better services? Who knows…

[Jeff Adams]

Are you saying that rendering needs to occur before you can edit and view? Why exactly are you needing to render?

I’m waiting for my PP4 to come in the mail. I am under the assumption that adobe is not regressing, I watched a video on adobe.com that shows editing of AVCHD without having to render. What kind of system are you working on?

[Jeff Adams]

I actually edited AVCHD with Sony Vegas on my PC with no problems. Accept, I hated using Vegas, premiere is way better.

I have a friend with a Mac and Final Cut and they’ve been able to edit with no problems. I like final cut, it seems about the same as premiere to me. I just fear switching to mac because

1. I’ve invested so much in my pc
2. the amount i’ve invested in my pc wouldn’t have built quite the same size mac
3. the mac tends to have some compatibility issues with some programs i do like to use
4. most of my clients use a pc and when i get that occasional mac person to send me something it doesn’t seem to work right, display right, doesn’t open, or just has some type of problem on the pc.

CS3 ran great. HD was very easy to edit on my PC too. I’ve actually ran it side by side with final cut/Mac and there appeared to be no difference. But, I’m running on XP Pro. And, I don’t have a clue yet what CS4 will be like.

[Jeff Adams]

Man, that sounds like a SMOKING processor, 12 Megabyte Cache? I want that!!!! I have a Core 2 E6700 I don’t know the Cache size though, but it does great!

What I’m tripping on is, you’ve got all this killer hardware but you’re running on Vista 32 Bit??? Maybe that’s the reason you’re experiencing hiccups… I don’t know, but I imagine that 64 bit XP Pro or vista 64 bit would be SIGNIFICANTLY better and probably would enable you to actualize your systems true performance. I believe there’s limitations on 32 bit compared 64, like not being able to read more than a certain amount of RAM, (3 gig limit I think).

[Jeff Adams]

That’s great, but I need to do more advance editing and I love Premiers workflow! So, if Premiere CS4 can NOW edit AVCHD then this would be AWESOME! I’m just wondering if anyone has achieved this with good results?

[Jeff Adams]

Can anyone say that AVCHD is editable without problems on a good PC with PP4??? I’ve been very excited for the day when I can edit AVCHD in a Premiere workflow. I hope that I can!!! I also would like to know, has anyone has edited AVCHD from a Sony HDR SR1 in PP4? How did it go?

[Jeff Adams]

Man, i’m excited to edit AVCHD in premiere cs4!!! i hope that I can. I have an awesome system, very powerful. so, i don’t expect any system problems. I just hope that I can actually edit the AVCHD from my Sony HDR SR1’s. Let me know if you have actually edited AVCHD in PP4 and how well it does!!!

[Jeff Adams]

This may be due to your using a trial version. The trial version doesn’t have all the feature, according to one of the Adobe people I’ve spoken to. However, some of the Adobe people say it has all the features, so if you call you may get a different response. But, I’ve received strong evidence that the trial doesn’t allow you to do everything…