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  • PPro CS4: AVCHD – No realtime playback – er great !

    Posted by Rob Oday on November 11, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    So I thought that CS4 was going to do what Cineform and MainConcept do… Realtime play back in the timeline without having to waste hours pre-rendering for smooth playback/editing.
    What a joke !

    Currently MainConcept are working on a CS4 compatible plug in, and I’m about to trial out another Cineform plug as well (not sure if its CS4 working).
    Both Cineform and MainConcept did exactly what they said they’d do, and I didn’t have a single problem. Both have pro’s and con’s against each other and PPro seems to have a lot going against it at the moment.

    Now unless I’m doing something completely wrong, what was the point of Adobe even bothering ?

    John Grant replied 17 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Tim Kolb

    November 11, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    It depends on your system…

    HDV is a beast to process…AVCHD makes HDV look like a cakewalk. The software is capable of realtime, but not every system is…

    You can get a less complex decode by setting you overlay to “draft”…it will be faster, but won’t look quite as nice in motion, and will switch to a complete decode in pause.

    The draft mode may show you some macroblock errors here and there, but they aren’t in the footage, and the quality is certainly good enough to edit.

    Like HDV…it will take some time for the sheer muscle of available systems to advance to the point where they can easily run the encode/decode operations of this, yet more complicated compression system.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    CPO, Digieffects

  • Jeff Adams

    December 8, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Are you saying that rendering needs to occur before you can edit and view? Why exactly are you needing to render?

    I’m waiting for my PP4 to come in the mail. I am under the assumption that adobe is not regressing, I watched a video on adobe.com that shows editing of AVCHD without having to render. What kind of system are you working on?

  • John Grant

    March 10, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    I am able to edit AVCHD in PPro4 in High Quality, however, it does lag out and jump when I have multiple transitions or video over top of one another, or have it with multiple effects. I am using a i7 965 (3.2GHz) with 8GB of ram and Velociraptor hard drives – $5000 worth of equipment and I get lag and hangups. I wouldn’t expect a simple Intel or AMD Quad to be able to handle it at anything above draft mode.

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