Jasper Mcinerney
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If he says the feature works, then it does.
Well, actually, no it doesn’t. Repeat, if all clips have identical timecode (i.e. time of day), then you may not see this problem. That does not mean multiclip works! That means it will work for some people who only shoot this way. Clearly multiclip is supposed to work for cameras with different timecode!!!
Repeat: Multiclip does not work.Just because other forums are full of people who can’t get it to work doesn’t mean the feature itself doesn’t work. It means there could be a lot of people out there who have not taken the time to properly educate themselves on how to use the multiclip workflow.
Sigh. It’s just a computer program, don’t feel emotionally attached to it.
I’ll say it again: Clips shift sync (by offset between inpoints and timecode). This is a repeatable bug and a sequence with this problem has been sent to Apple by the Apple certified support crew. It’s not about workflow, it’s about FCP not working properly.!!!! I know it, the twenty other editors know about it, and Apple know about it. You should tell them that it’s all okay, I’m sure they’d like to know.
Whether they will do anything about it is anyone’s guess. But it remains, multiclip is a dog!!!! If you have this problem, let them know; it is not you, it is the software.
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I repeat: Multiclips do not work properly.
Have a look on the internet forums – it’s very easy to find people tearing their hair out in frustration. FCP 6 multiclip function is a dog!!!
If you are not having problems, then one of two things is happening: you have FCP version 5 (which has a whole different set of bugs), or you’re not using timecode, or possibly all your clips have identical timecode.
The multiclips lose sync!!!! Believe me I’m a professional TV editor and this is not an isolated problem; it occurs in every one of the 15 edit suites recently installed*, under the supervision of the official FCP support techies. Hell, they can even repeat the problem with a sequence of their own. Just because you haven’t had the problem, don’t assume it doesn’t exist. Apple know it exists, and they just haven’t or çan’t fix it. Their new FCP server is already 9 months overdue, so I’m assuming this is low on their list of priorities. They make much more cash from selling phones.
To reiterate:
If you sync (by inpoint) one or more cameras into a multiclip, then either disconnect and reconnect the media (or in some cases simply just close the project). Suddenly, one (or more) of the clips will shift time, and be completely out of sync. Often so badly that when you switch to that camera you will see black. But the angle is there, it’s just moved OUT OF SYNC from the other cameras! You’ll see that the multiclip length has grown, and possibly one or more of the clips has lots it’s anamorphic attribute.There are thousands of people out there wondering if they are doing something wrong. Swearing at the computer, and just wasting an inordinate number of hours trying to work something out, that JUST DOES NOT WORK.
If you are one of those people, let Apple know. Don’t let the Apple zealots tell you that you’re doing something wrong, because you aren’t. Apple know it’s a problem. Will they fix it?????
Who knows.
Jasper
*two power supply failures and a faulty monitor in a batch of 15! They don’t make ’em like they used to.
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Well, it’s probably too late now, but you may have discovered that multiclips don’t work.
If you reconnect media, or sometimes if you just close and open the project, the multiclip will lose synce, often wildly! You’ll notice that the multiclip has become longer, and that there may be black at beginning and end. If you’re in a 16:9 format, some camera may go 4:3.
I work for a TV network, and we’ve been complaining about it ever since we got FCP in January. The local Apple support team have finally conceded that it is indeed a problem with the FCP software, and reported it to Apple.
Whether Apple care, and will actually do anything is anybody’s guess. They are not know for being responsive to customers.
So don’t pull you’re hair out, you’re not going mad. Multiclip does not work. You can try grouping again, but you will have the same problem, and in effect, it renders your cut sequence unusable.
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Multiclips do not work and frequently lose sync. If you’re trying to edit any sizable project, then forget it.
Problems occur if timecodes and in points are different, which on multicamera shoot is often the case.
Problem happens when you move, reconnect or otherwise change media, and on some projects it will happen on closing and opening FCP.
You’ll also notice that the length of the multiclip is longer than it should be, possibly with black at the beginning or end.
I work for TV network that installed FCP in January, and after two months of trying to edit multicamera shoots, the official support people have finally admitted that there is indeed a problem with the FCP software. Apple have been informed…
Whether Apple can or will fix it is anyone’s guess. They’re not exactly known for being responsive to complaints.
If you use multiclips then forget it. The problem won’t go away. We’re on the verge of hiring some Avids just to cope with the backlog of work that we can’t get done. So if it’s cheesing you off, then complain to Apple, and maybe they’ll do something about but I’m not holding my breath waiting.
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Which version are you using?
On 6.02 Muticlips are stuffed.
They go out of sync all the time, to the point where multiclip just does not work.
I work for TV network and we’ve been complaining about the problem since they installed the suites in January. Finally the local Apple support have admitted it’s an FCP software problem.
Whether Apple will fix it is anyone’s guess. For a company that makes a point of being user friendly, they’re not doing a good job in my experience.
Avoid multiclip at all costs – it is really a piece of junk.
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HI Sean,
Multiclip does not work properly!!!! Believe me, you are doing nothing wrong.
I work for a national TV network and we’ve just switched from Avid to FCP. After two months of complainging about multiclip sync problems, the local Apple support team have finally admitted that it does not work, and the problem is with the FCP software (currently 6.02).
Multiclips will lose sync when you shut the project, or if you disconnect & reconnect media. And some other times too. Sync difference is double the offset of starting timecodes if they are different on different cameras.
This is a very freakin’ serious ‘bug’, and Apple know about it, but so far, no solution. It makes editing with multiclip nearly impossible.
You may also notice that the length of your multiclip is extraodinarly long, and if you are in a 16:9 project, some of the clips will now be 4:3 for no good reason.
You can try grouping the clips again and recutting, but you will have the same problem with the new group.
Mind you, some projects will occasionally work ok.
Also of note, is that shots already in cut sequences do not disappear out of synce. It appears that clips in the timeline seem to create their own ‘invisible’ master clip; although they seem to refer to another clip, they are really they’re own animal. If you switch angles on the timeline, it will go out of sync (often to black), but if you ‘undo’ it will return to the right point. Of course this does not help solve the problem.
Even after consulting the boffins, waiting for an answer, it looks like we’re going to have to get some Avid suites installed because we can’t edit half a dozen programs that are sitting on the shelf.
My advice after two months of trying to work around the problem, is to avoid multiclip. If you need to edit multiclip, don’t use FCP, because you’ll suffer a lot of frustration for nothing.
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Markers and volume changes do not stick in multiclip. They should, but they don’t.
You can try putting a marker in the timeline, but if you change the sequence, the marker will stay in the same place in the timeline, which pretty much renders it useless.
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This is one of many bugs with multiclip. In fact there are so many that it really doesn’t work at all and is best avoided. The above might be a workaround to a two camera shoot, but if you want to do anything more complicated… forget it! You’ll be lucky if the two cameras stay in sync.