[Jackie Luffy]

Well I’ve done 23.97 frames and 29.97 and have the same issues, I would like to point out that it is very difficult to notice the problem when it comes to the sound going out of sync, it is only when I edit something very razor sharp and view it many times over in Vegas that I can notice something is off, then I watch the clip that seems weird over and over and compare it too in Vegas and it is 100% out of sync.

I use all kinds if different bit rates mostly when I do 1080 p I use 20,000 and variable bit rate

As for codecs I have xvid installed but that is it..

My question is though like I mentioned with Architrct having black empty frames at random places doesn’t make sense, how can the exact same type of rendered video have problems when the others do not?

[Jackie Luffy]

In Vegas? Or Architect?

[Jackie Luffy]

Okay this is very very strange… in summary

Raw footage > put into Vegas > rendered the exact same way > One video has black flashes at the start where the text is shown, the rest of the video is perfect no black flashes, the other video has random black flashes during the super night shot parts..

Now when I compressed the one that had flickering during the titles through handbrake, I put it into Architect and it WAS FLAWLESS, the flickering was gone at the titles as well as the whole video

When I put the 2nd one through handbrake guess what? The black flashes are STILL there in Architect except THIS time they are in different areas!?

It’s stuff like this that really grinds my gears, stuff that makes no sense

[Jackie Luffy]

I just found out how to make the black flashes go away…

All I did was compress it again as a mp4 through handbrake and put it back into Architect and this time the black flashes went away….

So A MP4 rendered through Vegas won’t work
Yet if I compress it through handbrake it will work?

I really do not want to go through all my hundreds of videos and have to re-compress them through handbrake to do this, could someone please tell me if there is anything else I can do to fix this annoying problem? Thanks

[Jackie Luffy]

I just checked the timeline in DVD Architect for the video that was giving me the problem with the flickers, and sure enough it shows on the timeline and when I zoom up and check it out it is indeed a black frame, so It is not a problem with the burning process it is the file… That still doesn’t make sense since the other videos were captured and rendered the same way and they don’t have problems

[Jackie Luffy]

It’s a very complicated project, I used Handbrake to burn in permanent subtitles for a movie, and the movies both have different english subtitles, I tried to get better ones but these were the best ones available, So I rendered out a non-sub version, and two more with the different english subtitles, the reason I did this is because the subs are so bad they will appear before talking is going on and sometimes stays longer than needed, so since there was black bars on the tops and bottoms I realized I could black out the subtitles and use the cookie cutter tool in Vegas to completely customize the subs exactly how I wanted!

So I did that to every single subtitle, and the thing is since I had two seperate tracks of the movie just with different subtitles I would switch back and forth, the reason being is it seemed certain things were translated better at different parts in each version, so whenever I came to something in the subtitles that looked questionable I would just switch to the other version and use that video track with the better subs, and as you can imagine when the subtitles change in a scene its sometimes just 1 frame away from each other, so lets say the subtitles end in version A and the next frame had bad subs, I wanted to use the subs from version B, so I switch to version B and put it right beside Version A obviously so the video will still be in sync, so when I play this in Vegas it is correct, the frames that go from Version A to Version B is normal there is nothing wrong here

But once it is rendered out all of a sudden I can see a quick flash inbetween what I actually correctly cut! sure enough, its the next frame in version A that has the subs that I DID NOT WANT TO USE, my project settings are 23.976 and the file is rendered out at 23.976 so I don’t understand why it is different once its rendered.

This is probably one of the weirdest things I have ever witnessed in Vegas

One thing I might note is I had two video tracks with 2 seperate videos right ontop of each other, I looked at parts frame by frame and noticed that there was a repeat of the same frame, and it just so happened to be at the end of a cut, so i figured I may have just accidentally moved it one frame over (Before I explain further, imagine this, I have two seperate videos stacked ontop of each other, both of them are the EXACT same length, the same frame rate, same everything, the one on top is the movie with no subtitles, and the one underneath is the one with the subs burned into the picture)

So when I don’t want these subs to appear I will make a cut on the top video (which is the no subs version) where I want the non subs to begin and since I make sure these two tracks are always in sync I know when I cut the top track at the start point and end point I can make the subtitles disappear for how long I want.

I’m sorry it’s so crazy to explain this I hope you can follow!

So now I on the top track I have a start to the cut and an end, I go through this frame by frame to see how it transitions from Version A to Version B to see how the removing of the subs at whatever time looks to make sure its good, and at the end of the cut when it switches back to the subtitle version there is two of the same repeated frames? So I thought oh I must have just moved the top over by one frame right? So to see if this is absoulutley true I check the beginning of the cut and sure enough it is not effected! I compare the beggining of that cut to the bottom track that has the burned in subs and the frames are EXACTLY the same!? How did I fix this? ALL I DID was grab the top track (the non sub version) and just move it up ONE TRACK and then magically for some reason that frame that was missing is there all of a sudden?

I put the clip back down and zoomed up as far as I can go, and to my surprise I found a VERY TINY mini transition line merging that merges into the next clip if its beside something!? It just is so strange because if these clips are both the same frame rate then why would it be doing that?

Anyway, what I ended up doing was just moving every single edit I did for the clips that were doing that back by 1 FRAME and now in Vegas it appears to be perfect, but then again I feel like it will be hit or miss because I could have sworn it looked perfect before I rendered it the first time, I almost feel like the clips were edited properly and then they got thrown off by one frame for no reason, OMG I sound crazy, I think Vegas is driving me crazy! I went through my video again CAREFULLY and everything is perfect, I will just have to wait and see what rendering it gets me

Sorry for the long post

[Jackie Luffy]

I meant to say (23.976) Not 29 frames

[Jackie Luffy]

I have one final question! If I zoom in on the VHS footage in Vegas to avoid the small black bars on the sides of the screen and to avoid the noise at the bottom of the screen (I guess from the capture) would that be a bad idea to do that?

Also would it be safe to save my footage as something other than 656 BY 480 so I can crop off the bottom and sides? Or would that just make a noticeable loss in quality?

[Jackie Luffy]

Okay thank you so much for all your help! 🙂 Have a great day

[Jackie Luffy]

Which de-interlace method would you be using for the project settings John? Blend fields or interpolate, I just want to be safe and make sure I’m doing it right