[Herb Sevush]

[Bill Davis] “Yes, “dinosaur” became a pejorative meme in these parts.”

Ahhh, the admission.

I thank you.

Applause.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

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[Bill Davis] “So my post stands. That I couldn’t recall ONE post out of literally thousands is perfectly reasonable.”

Well then, here’s number two – different thread

“and your replies remind me of a crusty old man so set in his ways he can’t even be open minded to the concept of working differently…i feel so sorry for you to be so close minded…i guess thats why you hate fcp x then….you are just unwilling to accept change! typical of the old farts who are becoming dinosaurs of the post world……”

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/15673

I’m sure there is much that you don’t recall, especially if it negates your point.

And yes, I too am enjoying this.

Nothing like being right at someone else’s expense. There must be a German word for this.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Herb Sevush]

[Bill Davis] “Thanks for posting the entire quote in context. That I missed a single post in 2011 SHOCKS me.”

Bill, you were merely quoting Jeremy in your original statement and even he acknowledges his mistake. Your absolutest quote being “i don’t remember anyone …” – not most people, just pure hyperbole based on someone else’s research. That you still deal in exaggeration and absolutes to make a point is an almost endearing matter of style by now, but don’t blame me when you get caught out on it.

I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
— Your winnings, sir.
Oh, thank you very much.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Herb Sevush]

[Jeremy Garchow] “This is my fault. I have more work to do.”

No grovelling, I’m allowed one victory in 3 years.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

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[Scott Witthaus] ” I also agree with Tim that it was best to EOL it right then and there and move on. Take the legs out of the story, take your lumps and move on.”

Except, of course, for the fact that the legs never came off the story, the lumps keep coming in terms of an industry wide antipathy to X based mostly on misinformation, and this forum is ample demonstration that many have not moved on. So yes, a perfect roll out.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Herb Sevush]

[John Rofrano] “I read that post and I believe you need to take it in context.”

The context of Kim’s post is the entirety of Kim’s postings at the time, which were totally hyperbolic about X and contemptuous of anyone not ready to join the parade. Whether you believe it to be accurate or not, the idea that there were no postings calling some editors “dinosaurs” is simply not true.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Herb Sevush]

[Bill Davis] “Just to keep the record clear, I don’t remember anyone on the pro-X side ever actually calling those who don’t like it “dinosaurs.””

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/10927

“there is no room for the old farts that are set in their ways..they are the dinosaurs of the post industry…period!”

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

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Thomas –

Use the multicam feature and create 1 multiclip using the audio as your sync reference. If your cameras were stop and go, you can open up the mutlicam timeline and consolidate your shots into fewer angles. Ppro is perfect for this type of shoot. As far as I know anything you can do in FCPX you can do in PPro as far as multicam goes.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Herb Sevush]

[John Rofrano] ” Editors who resist the magnetic timeline need to rethink about what they are doing when they edit.”

Actually, it’s quite the reverse. Editors who resist the magnetic timeline don’t have to rethink what they are doing, which is half the story.

[John Rofrano] “They are telling a story where events happen in a particular order and these events have corresponding things that all happen together (e.g., a video clip with a video overlay, and a sound effect with music accompaniment) and when you move the video to alter the story, the fact that the sound fx and music and overlays and whatever else is associated with it moves with it is pure genius. Why would it work any other way?”

Why indeed. Which is why all NLE’s can accomplish this quite easily, or we would all still be cutting film. However some editors like the freedom of choosing exactly what elements they wish to move and where precisely they are going to end up, all without any encumbrances, even if it takes a few more keystrokes. Which is why I always cut with my audio unattached to my video, even if they were recorded together. Other editors are troubled by such freedoms, which require worrying about things like sync, and are thrilled that they can have their hands held as they move their locked-together media around the timeline. This forum has shown nothing if it hasn’t shown the enormous range of editing workflows that are employed by various editors; and one editor’s “genius” is the next editor’s “WTF”.

and that’s the other half of the story.

[John Rofrano] ” What’s a track? There are no “tracks” in real life.”

I live right next to a railroad, and believe me there are tracks in real life.

[John Rofrano] “Why would video software introduce tracks? It doesn’t make sense.”

If you had ever edited film and used a syncronizer, you would understand where the paradigm of “tracks” came from.

[John Rofrano] “Having a primary storyline to tell a story with connected clips to keep everything together seems so natural to me now. Why would I want to work any other way?”

I give up – why would you?

I know why I would though, and that keeps me working with almost anything other than X, despite it’s many virtues. The paradigm of a “primary storyline” is much crazier to me than the paradigm of “tracks.” But YMMV — and it obviously does.

[John Rofrano] “you may not be working as efficiently as you could be and the best NLE would change that and make you more efficient… but you must be willing to change your “legacy” ways.”

My ways were formed before Legacy was a gleam in Randy Ubillos’s eye. Editor’s have been editing moving pictures for over a hundred years and the least significant difference between all of them is their choice of tools.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

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[Scott Witthaus] “How different is CC from CS6?”

How different was FCP 3 to FCP 5? I couldn’t do my work properly with CS6, I could with CC (7) and CC 2014 is a huge improvement again. They are really actively hunting out bugs and bad workflow issues, it’s getting to the point where I’m not missing the FCP7 timeline anymore, + the additional tools (integration with AE and Audition) are superb.

And I must mention the scaling in Ppro – in FCP I was reluctant to go above 105%.I would go to 105-110% if I had to and beyond that – forget it. With Ppro I feel comfortable scaling up to 120% – even 125% with the addition of the sharpening filter – this ability to reframe even without 4K material is fantastic. We shoot multicam and often (thanks to 16×9 aspect ratio) I get a nose from one chef peaking into the cu of another chef. Now with Ppro I think nothing of scaling up the shot to get rid of the offending proboscis. The sharpening filter has saved me from a camera with a slightly off back-focus, bringing the foreground object into enough apparent sharpness to save the shot.

There are still a number of small things I miss from Legend, but I’m very happy with the move to Adobe. I still don’t like subscription, but as the song says, “you can’t always…”

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf