Herb Sevush
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[Scott Witthaus] “Problem is that it’s not the first version of PP, correct?”
Correct. I wasn’t making a comparison, I was making a point.
[Scott Witthaus] ” I assume that to do the free Cloud trial I won’t have to subscribe or put credit card digits out there?”
I have no idea, it’s easy enough to check their website.
Herb Sevush
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[Bill Davis] “An excellent description of where Herb is and will likely remain.
He has a “way” of editing that has served him really, really well for a long, long time. And he’s absolutely NOT going to see editing in any other way. It makes complete sense. And thats why for him, PPro was a great solution and X will never be.”
Yes, and succinctly put, but with the understanding that my “way” isn’t mine at all; I am but a lowly rambler traveling a well trod road laid out by my betters long before I ever left home.
Herb Sevush
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[John Rofrano] “Apple had a section of their web site dedicated to Windows users moving to Mac.”
That’s because Apple is basically a hardware company that makes software to get you to use their hardware. So yes, they will engage with you to buy a Mac computer, but they won’t engage to explain how their software works. The difference with a software company such as Adobe is that the software IS the end product, it is not a give away to get you to buy something else. Or maybe it’s just corporate culture, in any event you will find Adobe guys contributing throughout the Cow forums, but all you will get from Apple on these forums is silence.
[John Rofrano] “BTW, I found Adobe’s help to be absolutely useless. I have CS6 and they don’t ship any documentation and when you open the help and go to in a topic, instead of getting documentation, you get taken to a web site with suggestions from people on a forum when all you really wanted was the actual documentation from Adobe to find out how something works. Totally frustrating!”
Couldn’t agree more, their written documentation is both very limited and very hard to find. Their actually is a written PDF manual for Ppro, but it’s something of a disorganized mess and they keep it as hidden as the location of Jimmy Hoffa’s burial ground.
On the other hand it is possible to make contact directly with Adobe thru people like Dennis Radkeke and Kevin Monahan who monitor these forums and get direct answers about problems you are facing.
Given that you’re training has been in an outlier product (not meant disparagingly, just a fact) I can see how the switch to PPro, Avid or even Legacy FCP would be difficult for you. Sounds like X is a perfect fit.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Andrew Kimery] ” PPro in CS6 is pretty sucky compared to CC/CC2014 so I wouldn’t make any final judgement calls on PPro based on such an old version.”
Amen to that. it would be like judging X on a first year version. I believe you get a free one month trial for the cloud, so if your OK with the subscription mode I would try that out instead. Ppro is a very rapidly evolving system.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Charlie Austin] “Well, in that case you can apply audio transitions just like any other NLE.”
Well I could except for the fact that X doesn’t have sync indicators, so even though I prefer to untether it would be fairly suicidal to do it in X. So there you have it – I prefer un-linking audio but X punishes you for it because it lacks sync indicators, then if you keep the audio linked, applying audio crossfades throughout the show becomes a problem. Like I said — a product made for someone else.
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[James Ewart] “Herb what is your plan then?
Adobe?”
Yes, I switched over to Ppro last spring. Like every system it has it’s plus and minuses, but overall I’m happy with it. For me the biggest pluses are in it’s handling of audio – the track mixer is great and the ability to send to audition for audio repair with the spectrum analyzer has been an incredible help for the work I do. I don’t like the subscription model, but for now Adobe is the best place for me.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Bret Williams] “I think you’re not realizing that an audio cross fade is already applied to the audio with ANY transition, just like any NLE where the audio and video are connected. You have to go out of the way to not have an audio cross fade on a transition.”
First, most of my video doesn’t have transitions but most of my audio does, so the fact that audio transitions are included with my 2 dozen video transitions does not help me with my 300 audio edits. Next comes the fact that I don’t want my audio transitions tied into a decision I make about the video, which is why I always untether my audio from my video in any NLE I use.
As to laying black down with Avid –well that kind of stupidity is why I never cut with Avid either. I used to lay down black basic when doing linear on-line editing, I would hope that we have advanced somewhat in the last few decades. Apparently not.
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Zebra Productions
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[Steve Connor] “Big downsides are that you can’t use it if you have existing transitions on the video clips and doesn’t work on split audio!”
Yeah, I guess you cold call that a big downside. As in, unusable in all but the simplest instances.
Herb Sevush
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Tony –
If anything were to convince me that FCPX is not for me, that little video would do it, even though it shows a clever way to accomplish what I was talking about. First they had to use something called a gap cut so that the music wouldn’t move all over the place when they were cutting the video – oh yeah, that sounds like something I need to learn. Next they come up with a solution that puts video dissolve markers on every video cut even though they are all straight cuts in order to put crossfades on the audio – all this after you have to create the effect yourself in Motion. I realize that this works, but it is the very definition of a “workaround.” I’m glad this all works for you, but this is definitely not for me.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Charlie Austin] “say a 1-3 frame fade in or out to individual clips, not crossfades. I think Herb and others mentioned doing this on every audio cut when chopping up dialog.”
No, actually it’s 3 frame crossfades between audio cuts. Fades to silence need to be used sparingly, since the fade out of the background room tone gets noticeable in many cases.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf