Grant Strac
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I was incorrect when I wrote ryan into my rant and I apologized to him it was adam’s useless statement that pissed me off. But I understand you are correct to answer your question it’s 28:28. Now I did several tests and I jacked the bit rate all the way up to, Maximum 9. and average at 7.5 and that is where I get that final file size of 1.76.
My one problem was answered as to put orphan tracks to fill out the disc but I still am confused why when I encode the hd project I get the smaller file size than the sd encode which comes out three times bigger. As far as I have been taught about compressor and the codecs I think, now I can be incorrect I am flawed as stated above :), but since the file size is so large with hd it’s compressing more information into that particular codec and the sd is closer to the mpeg 2 so it comes out larger…..I think
That is what has me so confused about the sizes. I know it wouldn’t add quality to the final print if I was able to fill out the rest of disc but it just seems like if I where to encode the hd project in a different process maybe I can get it just little larger.
I know that this is incorrect thinking but thanks for taking time
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I have to apologize in my frustration I was talking about adam’s “errr why” that was what I was bitching about not you at all I got the names confused in the list. I totally appreciate that you did answer what I was trying to figure out. Again I got your name mixed up you where not at all wrong or incorrect it was adam that made me angry. I appreciate your time and concern. I didn’t think it would be possible but I wanted to see if I wasn’t seeing an angle. Thank you
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I don’t understand how your tying in idealism in answer and the facts. I was keeping those two things separate. As alway I said in this post I understand the codec I wanted to see if it would be possible to fit more on because when I do sd and hd of same project file sizes don’t add up. But thank you for the clarification to everyone on that its not possible I get that it wouldn’t add anything extra to the quality I only wanted to see if it could be done thank you
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Thanks, that I didn’t think of at all
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Chris,
I’m not sure where you’re getting the bit rate’s from unless your strictly talking about the dvd mpeg 2 settings. As I put in my post this is a personal quest. I am one of 16 people having masters certification so I am well aware of the technical theory of discs and the mpeg2 stream. I understand how a file being 287gb goes down to maximum 1.64gb, it’s the algorithm I get it. I want to see what it will look like if I fill a disc. I said above I don’t care if it even gives more quality or not. That is reason number one. I film DSLR and my files are huge and I would like to put as much as that information on disc as possible. The free space is there so I want to take advantage.
My other reason I have a four disc set coming up and I know already probably all my final outputs can fit on one disc but is being sold across 4. I would like to figure out how to write the whole disc so someone doesn’t turn it over and see less than 1/4 of each disc filled. Now I am using professional discs and duplicator so it will be hard since they are proper dvd’s but I am just thinking of all thinking ahead. I am perfectionist and if I can cover an angle I will.Again I realize that the algorithm is not capable of much more because it’s taking such a large file down to small. With all the training I have in compressor and dvd as far as I know it’s not possible. MPEG2 is what it is.
What makes me think that maybeeee theres a way and I might just be unaware of a particular way of looking at this.
I edited this project in HD, final file size 287gb. I also converted all the footage to SD and replaced into a SD based project. The final export size was 14gb. When I take HD to dvd the disc size is 1.67 and the SD project to disc is 3.78gb.
See I have figured out this best way to deliver to disc with best quality but I just want to see if my theory is possible beyond the knowledge at hand.
Don’t bother asking me why or anything. On topic responses only. Yes or no with a explanation if necessary please. Chris thank you
As an apple certified trainer it really bothers me that people come like Ryan come with no additional advice you are wasting your time and mine. If an inexperienced person needs immediate help or myself it is counter productive to not stay with topic and answer the question like Chris. Apple teaches that we should always answer a student’s question. ask things like “well I understand what your asking but it’s really not possible because of this…” Be an adult or don’t answer posts. I get the honor of dealing with the havoc people like you spread into the world by misinforming people or wasting their time causing them to become discouraged and or scared to post on forum like this because might be ridiculed.
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Thank you Michael the source capture was the issue. I only re-compressed (for everyone else to know) to see if I could get more out of pro res rather than dvc pro. It was filmed in dvc pro and it was not captured in that format.
I realize the anamorphic flagging I only wanted to throw some darts at the wall because I was at a loss to the quality. I put it into motion because Motion turns everything vectored immediately as it’s put into the program which allows a little better image manipulation.
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Well although I appreciate the insight I have fixed my problem.
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I’m pretty sure that’s the problem I bet it wasnt captured with dvcpro. I didn’t think of that so thank you!
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Ok thank you I appreciate the insight. Thats exactly what I thought this production place does what they can but I was quite sure that the import of the tapes was the problem. I will request the tapes and do it myself, thanks. I tried doing the option to make it anamorphic and it looked the same the transcode was just a hope to maybe gain quality. Like you I was just throwing darts hoping to hit. Your probably right I figured that if it where fixable by any way possible it was probably on the capture.
Thanks again!
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I’m working so I cant give long explanation but select it in the timeline and do option>r or sequence render all and make sure the green is selected. I’ll bet that you have a light green signifyer in the top of timeline and sometimes on psd’s final cut needs a full render to view it like supposed to because it is such high quality file. If it still looks funny put in and outs in the timeline around the image and make sure to include something else like small footage clip within your in/out points and just export out self contained .mov of just that section of timeline and I’ll put money on it looking a-ok.