Graeme Nattress
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P2 is not dumb, but forwards thinking. Sellotape dipped in rust and lubricated with whale oil is dumb!
Yes – we fully understand you can’t see all the pieces in the workflow yet, but that’s because Panasonic have to make the camera so that people can design products that work with it, and that’s partly, I think, why we’re hearing about it now before it’s released and the spec totally finalised.
As for “no masters” – with lossless digital transfer you can make as many masters as you want. With tape, you’re stuck with one master, and if you want more, it had better be in a format you can dub loslessly. So yes, stick with your BetaSP which will degrade the footage your camera produces compared to any digital format, and DV which gives you an hour recording in SD. If you want tape at high quality, then get the Varicam or SDX900. If you’re ready to adopt new workflows, then go p2 and use the P2 to your advantage. Nobody is suggesting you have a cupboard full of drives. But people do do this now, and it does work for them. Holographic storage is around the corner, blur ray and higher density optical disc storage is just about here, and they’re all more appropraite for archive than tape.
Graeme
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The deck we know of was DVCAM not DV, and it’s very expensive. I have no idea on it’s reliability. This is really a dead end, as we know DV tape is never going to be totally reliable and I hestiate to think what it would do at 4x – and even still that’s what, 15mins of HD on a tape. You’re back to short record times again. P2 really is the right solution methinks.
Graeme
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We discussed this earlier. It’s a DVCAM deck that does 4x ingest and record over SDTI for ENG use. It’s about $20k and would be way too bulky for a camcorder mechanism.
So yes, it’s possible, but no, it’s not practical.
Graeme
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Graeme
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It’s definition at 960×1080 isn’t up to much either. I’ve got a feeling that the chips will be 1280×720, but that’s just my feeling. It sounds that Panasonic are working on something special as they’re very keen for people to get a good dynamic range out of the camera too, and that’s not something companies optimise for at such a price point, so it will be very interesting to see what they come up with.
Graeme
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It’s not staggering when you think of the flexibility it gives you. As for client VHS, can you not send them a DVD? Or why not plug the camera into your computer over firewire and go component or s-video or composite out?
https://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1785630,00.asp
Should sort out any backup issues next year, which is not too long after this camera will be available. Remember – they have to put the cart before the horse so that people can develop stuff for the camera. You can’t expect people to make a hard drive recording system for a camera that does not exist. As soon as Panasonic get the camera out there will be lots of people with workflow solutions for all kinds of video shooters.
All the pieces of the puzzle are not quite there yet. But they will be. You’ve just got to look beyond and see that now the computer industry is very, very linked to the video industry, and computer products drop in price quicker and are cheaper than video products. This is a good thing.
And if the workflow isn’t there for you when the camera is realeased – no matter – it just gives you a bit longer to save up for it, and by the time the workflow for your need is there, the P2 cards will be a lot cheaper too.
Graeme
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But can get very slow indeed when you need to scan for movements that are the “big”. I remember playing with earlier twixtors (not tried the new one) and if you had some fast action, movement sort of fell out of range, and things all went screwey. It will be interesting to see what Apple are doing, but “fast” was certainly not one of the words they mentioned….
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP
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That’s exactly what they’re doing on their bigger 1080i camera. They really want to get a sweet spot between dynamic range, high resolution and low noise / low light performance. That’s because a pro level camera is useless without all three. I think Panasonic understand the difference between high definition and high resolution.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP
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It’s a FX1/Z1 camera, without the lens, in a different “box”. It’s a not really a “deck” mechanism, hence it only takes small tapes. The cababilities of the deck are that of the camera. Seriously, I’d just buy a second camera rather than that “deck”.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP