[George]

I was looking at footage in DVCPRO 720p/24 and 60.

The issue I think is that the small 1/3 inch CCDs are too noisy. Sure the DVCPRO codec is great. But
the noise issues with the 1/3 inch chip are a real problem for this camera esp at HD resolution.

Has anyone done analysis on the DVCPRO 50 16:9 progressive capability of the HVX200? That is likely better quality and may merit a purchase of the camera alone. (ie not hoping for varicam quality and not being disappointed).

Also don’t think that the camera blows away the Sony FX1 either, esp when one downconverts to 720p from a native 1080 x 1440 resolution using DVCPRO 100 at 720 x 960. My tests show otherwise and I can share the footage if you like, seeing is believing.

Overall I am not overly impressed with what I have seen with the HVX 200. I am impressed with the innovation however to P2 cards over using tape. that is a very big step forward. And also no more expensive decks to buy.

[George]

I found one 1080p frame grab of a bridge in asia.

https://www.onetensix.com/hvx200/img/0001b_l.tif

lots of noise in the image… looks like it handles color much better than HDV though..

[George]

I think its the opposite. All the HD players (sony/toshiba) are moving to 1080i/1080p and the broadcasters usually want 1080 masters.

American Idol which is “the” most popular television show uses the Sony HDV cameras for all there Bcam back stage recording.

The HVX200 will likely be a nice camera, but the small 1/3 CCDs with introduce high levels of noise into the image. With HDV its this issue and the MPEG2 recording that creates the noise.

With the HVX you’ll have a fine codec (DVCPROHD100) but the old garbage in > garbage out problem still exists. So even though the codec can handle 4:2:2 and higher bite rate, the 1/3 inch sensor will be the weakest link.

[George]

By re-introducing the AppleHDV.component for a second time, the problem is gone.

I was using the latest version of FCP.

The error occured when trying to use any of the HDV – 1080i/60 HDV – 1080i/50 or the 720 presets in FCP. the error message was “codec missing”.

The solution appears to be reloading the file mentioned above into the /lib/qt folder

[George]

Think the 30 inch apple display would give you pixel for pixel monitoring and you will need a 220 MB/sec plus raid array to handle the realtime date. I’d go with the new FC HUGE array with the atto fibre channel card.

[George]

here is the other post I mentioned.

https://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=124&postid=858717

[George]

I had the same problem. it wiped out the HDV preset and codec.

[George]

how about as a render node?

[George]

The BH listing says HDV which is not correct.. who is writing the copy for theie website? Sony?

[George]

I don’t think panasonic is going to give up on its frame tagging protocol. its embedded into the
decks, cameras, frame rate converters and FCP HD to boot. It is more of a number theory like implementation of a universal or special number to give it all incarnations of the dvcpro hd format. it has less to do with tape per say.