Eric Addison
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Jason,
I’m with Eric – I’ve been using CS4 since it was released and have not seen it produce anything like that.
system used (FYI this is a system that is not available to the general public yet, our parent company does a lot of work with the GOV so we have some systems we test for them on occasion)
I have to wonder if that has something to do with why you are having some trouble. It could be caused by some conflict with something in your system.
XP on all systems (NO VISTA) we have enough issues with ADOBE without M$ global F#$%up being in the mix!
You know, I’ve heard this from so many people, but I’ve got Vista 32 on my laptop and Vista 64 on my edit workstation and they work great. PPro has no problems with them, and I’ve had no real issues with anything else as well. I think that a lot of the problems with Vista have been addressed.
I watched the clip and can see what you’re talking about – if it doesn’t jump like that in the raw footage, then something is happening in the encode…I’ve just no idea what. Could it be that there was a bad install?
Maybe I missed it, but did you say what format the original footage was? Also, you matched those settings in the output (i.e. the frame rate’s the same, etc.)?
—Eric
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Are you running Vista 64 or Vista 32? If you aren’t using Vista 64, that would be my first move.
And I know you said this really wasn’t an option, but I would consider breaking the project up into smaller reels – maybe 20-30 minute reels.
—Eric
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DOES ANYONE actually have a computer PC based Adobe system, which works without crashes or all these problems everyone seems to have with cs4?
I’ve got CS4 running great on an HP 8400 workstation. I’ve also got it running on my HP laptop which isn’t as powerful as the workstation.
I wish I had something to tell you, but it just may be something in your system. Are your drivers up to date? Do you have any extra codecs installed on the machine?
—Eric
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Troy,
Thanks for the feedback. I guess part of my asking is that I’ve cut some HDV short films – 20-30 minutes in length with lots of footage, and I haven’t seen much in the way of stability issues with PPro (from CS3 and CS4).
I know someone who has cut 60-90 minute narrative projects (shot DV SD) with PPro, and I’ve talked to about his experience and he said he had no real stability problems. But he did break the project up into 20 minute reels after the first one which if I recall was all on one timeline and he did mention some slow down in performance occasionally.
I will say that load times do really increase in proportion to the amount of assets in a project. One large project I remember took a long time to load, but there’s a rumor floating around over on the Adobe forums that the soon to be released 4.1 update for CS4 will address this problem(https://forums.adobe.com/message/1739662#1739662).
Overall, I’m very happy with CS4. I know many are complaining about this or that, but my experience with it has been wonderful. I wouldn’t go back to CS3 for anything. But I think much of my experience is due to a great computer with some power – it handles SD and HD quite well.
PPro’s not perfect – but then what NLE is. But I’m with you in that I’d like to see Adobe make some under the hood improvements and see PPro really take over more of the market. The workflow and tool set is just so good.
—Eric
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“It is now accepted by Adobe that long form projects such as yours bring premiere to its knees, no amount of ram or processing power will fix it because the software in itself is broken.”
It is? Where have they said this?
“The software at this stage is just crap.”
Funny – it’s working great for me.
As for long form projects, I agree that it’s best to break up the project into reels.
The complaint about long form projects seems to come up quite a bit in PPro forums. I don’t hear about it too much in the FCP forums, but then I’m not over in them as much. I wonder though if it’s a matter of FCP users aren’t creating longer timelines (they’re breakign the project up into shorter reels), where many PPro users seem to dump everything onto one. I’d be curious to know from some FCP users if you work on something longform and put it all on one timeline, how’s the performance?
—Eric
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You could check out Adobe’s Premiere Elements – it’s low cost with a great feature set. It should do all you need and more.
—Eric
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I edit with Premiere Pro CS4, and the support for the EX cameras is very good. I did a location shoot with the EX1 and had my laptop with me. I was able to dump the cards out in the field, and was able to check the footage by playing right from the cards in PPro. With no transcoding required you can start editing as soon as the footage copies over to your hard drive.
I would recommend that what ever edit system you go with, like Michael mentioned, get the most power you can afford.
As for viewing your footage, I haven’t tried this with the EX cameras, but PPro CS4 will push out an HD downconverted to SD signal out through firewire, so you could try going firewire out to the camera and then video out to an SD monitor. Otherwise, for an HD signal you could look at Blackmagic’s Intensity Pro – it’s a low cost way to view HD footage on an HD monitor.
If your going to be doing the bulk of your shooting with the EX3, a fully loaded capture card may be overkill unless you’ll need it to roll out to tape.
—Eric
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I cut with a wide range off footage – mostly DV, but I do some HDV and XDCAM EX footage on occassion.
I’ve got Vista 64 on a Dual-quad core Xeon machine with 6GB of RAM.
—Eric
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“”Don’t use with HP laptops!” (one is a year old and one is brand new)”
Are you sure there isn’t something that is causing a possible conflict, Todd. I’ve got it running great on 2 HP machines, one of which is a laptop over a year old too…The first thing I did when I got my laptop with Vista 32 is remove all the extra stuff they put in there. The I turned off most of the little visual stuff that Vista does.
—Eric
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“Anyone else having this experience?”
I think this may depend on the power of your system. I don’t notice any difference, and always let PPro render any DL clips.
—Eric