Adobe Premiere (A DISSAPOINTMENT)

[Eric Jurgenson]

By “Jumpy”, do you mean “Flickery”? Or is the footage actually jumping around on the screen?

To get the best results, your project (sequence) settings should match your camera settings (resolution, aspect ratio, frame rate, progressive or interlaced scan).

[Mike Cohen]

Yes, please give more details of project settings. Is this HDV video?
Premiere, to the new user, can cause some grief even on the super top secret WOPR computer. But once you get used to it it is a brilliant tool. Rendering WMV especially takes time – 25 minutes is not a long time.

We are here to help, not to judge.

Mike Cohen

[Lucas Windsor]

Sorry you have problems, but I have been using Premiere for seven years without almost any major issues. The software itself is just as rock solid as any other popular video editor. I use Final Cut Pro as well and they both run pretty solid.

[Jason Harris]

Eric

I guess what i mean is it LOOKS like the cameraman was shaking his camera, the video is not JUMPING persay, the footage just looks i dont know lol, should i post a flv file so you all may look at it, im not judging premiere right away, i am certainly not new to DV editing, however this is sad,

25 minutes for a 4 minute clip (wow i have seen vegas and avid do it in like 2 minutes before!)

ok ill post a flv and let you guys see whats happening before we go further

[Tim Kolb]

I think a link would be helpful.

Not knowing what camera shot it would make editing with the correct settings a challenge I’d think…

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Paul Thurston]

Hi Jason,

I carefully read your hardware/software system. Some suggestions:

1. OS… you have CS4 on WIN XP system. That would do it. Even if it’s the 64-bit WIN XP… You have to install CS4 in Windows Vista 64-bit Ultimate. Don’t waste your time with other versions of WIN software… they can work, but you will suffer if you use those other versions.

2. 4GB of RAM for CS4 is too restrictive. The rule of thumb is 2Gigs of RAM for every processor the OS detects. Too little RAM will make you suffer… it will cause Premier to crash in well-understood programming subroutines too.

Also, is the RAM the right type? All most everybody gets this part right, but then again, you have to check. Some motherboards, believe it or not, have clear restrictions on what type, amount and slot position RAM is to be installed. Not all motherboards are designed to have RAM in all the RAM slots available.

3. CS4 seems to like a minimum of two physical processors installed in two physical slots. So if your motherboard has slots for two processors, you’ll be happy if you have processors on all those slots. If you have multicore processors in those slots, you will do even better.

4. You may have a great RAID-0 that gives you great bandwidth, but did you check the speed of your C-drive. CS4 resides on the C-Drive, and so it’s important to check how many MB/s is this drive giving you. You want a C-drive that gives you at least 50 MB/s. If the C-drive is slower than 50MB/s, you will suffer.

5. Finally, are the chassis, motherboard, power supply, fans, and other peripherals optimized? Some chassis are just not cool (meaning the internal air flow is restricted causing internal heat to build up… that’s bad news.) Is the motherboard designed for video editing? Some are and work wonderfully. Is the power supply able to handle correctly the amperage requirements of the electronics? In other words, can it supply the number of Watts required? Some power supplies have three or four rails (circuits) and if you connect all the high wattage stuff to only one circuit, you’ll be sad, quite often I might add. Are the fans helping keep things cool? Sometimes you wonder. Are all the softwares running with the proper software updates? If you installed QuickTime, then Premiere, THEN updated QuickTime… bad news. Once Premier is installed, you don’t update QuickTime. If QuickTime is set to update automatically, you’ll be sad and WILL suffer when it updates.

Regards,
Paul

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Paul Thurston
Producer
Chile

[Paul Thurston]

Here’s something else,

If you captured the video via Firewire and your timeline setup is not for PAL DV video, the video will flicker on playback. PAL DV has the video fields reversed from NTSC DV video. So it you start with a DV timeline that is for NTSC framerate, the PAL video will playback with fields reversed even if the media is forced to playback at 29.97 fps.

If the video was shot in PAL and your timeline uses a DV PAL setup and upon playback it still jumps or appears as the fields are reversed, then you have two options.

1. Put the video on a PAL DV timeline and export the sequence. Edit using only the exported sequence.

2. Use After Effects to reverse the fields of the media and Edit using only the exported sequence in your PAL DV timeline.

If your computer has a video capture card, AJA Xena or BlackMagic, you captured uncompressed, you used a PAL timeline setup that works with one of these cards, and it still appears the PAL playback has fields reversed, customer service for the card is in your future.

Exporting video that has the field order reversed will greatly increase render times.

-Paul

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Paul Thurston
Producer
Chile

[Tim Kolb]

Jason? Do you have that link for us?

Paul’s input is all correct of course, XP is simply a roadblock to Adobe’s software getting the RAM it needs to run well…even CS3 ran far better on machines that could recognize more RAM.

On encode…the only way a framerate is getting changed is if you specified that that be the case in the encoder settings…so check those…though the image physically “jumping” as if the camera was shaking is different than it stuttering.

There are a lot of users who do run this software and if this was a problem in the app, I’d think we’d have heard about it by now.

So…we’re waiting for a link.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Jason Harris]

hello everyone

I am sorry for the dealy ,mwe have been busy testing vegas pro, and avid (which are proving to be TEN TIMES faster and MORE reliable then premiere, right now i just want to get a good copy of this video outputted, then cs4 can be done,

there are faster ways to get reliable production done in my ho

here is a link to a ZIP file of the FLV output of Premiere pro, sorry its a zip, but cannot upload just flv apparently

if you have any sugfgestions please let me know (i dont even care how long the encoder takes, as long as its a decent outputted file (or files) because it will be the LASt

as for the specs, while not concerned to much with all that, i did check with the gurus, they all said specs are running where they need to be, as for vista 90% of consumers contact out IT division to have it REMOVED from their pcs, AND NONE of our business clients will install it whatsoever (and we have over 300 including the GOV) so i dont think anymore needs to be said on that!

jay

https://www.dropfiles.net//files/3036/Sequence%2001.zip

[Jason Harris]

oh and FYI, as for the excessive moderation on this forum im not sure ill be sticking around, once an verification email is responded to and the key is generated that should be plenty, its a bit controlling and CHILDISH to see such long post delays due to the excessive moderation on this forum

I ll play it by ear!