[Dieter Moreno]

[Curt Charles] “We have a 2T disk (actually a pair of 2T set up in a RAID), so disk space really isn’t a concern at the present. “
There you go, it is taking a long time to render because the file size is so huge.

It doesn’t matter how much file space you have, terrabytes of video are always going to take forever to render.

Hard disc drive memory doesn’t determine how long it takes to render a video.

Hard disc drive RPM, CPU RAM, and GPU RAM determine how long it takes to render a video.

Well when I said “it doesn’t matter how much file space you have”, I mean that how much HDD memory you have doesn’t determine how long it takes to render, but the file size does determine how long it takes to render. Your HDD, CPU, and GPU can render at the same speed for every bit of data. So every bit of data rendered makes the video take longer to render, so the greater the file size, the longer the video will take to render.

[Dieter Moreno]

[Stephen Mann] “I use a Presonus Firepod (8-channel preamp with Firewire output) on an old laptop running Vegas 10.”

How do you do it?

When you connect your audio interface to your laptop, Vegas 10 can select the input channel from the audio interface to record to, then the method that I mentioned with recording then rendering as MPEG-2 elementary streams to demux the signal into separate audio tracks works?

How likely is it that Avid was nice enough to make a universal file container transport stream for all of its audio interfaces that will run on 3rd party software other than Avid Pro Tools? 0% chance?

Is this compatable with Vegas Pro 10?: Avid Recording Studio audio interface
$126
48KHZ
24bit
Stereo
USB
2 line in 1/4 inch
1 XLR
1 headphone jack 1/8 inch

[Dieter Moreno]

[Curt Charles] “Shot in HDV (1440x1080i, compressed. Sony Z1 and A1 cameras which record to tape) and rendered to the same. The project is about 1 hour long and I don’t know its disk footprint.”

A 1 hour long 1440x1080i video is going to have a huge disk footprint even using compression. You probably didn’t use enough compression.

This video bit rate calculator says that a one hour uncompressed video with those specifications (1440x1080i, 30fps, R8:G8:B8 (24 bit color), no alpha channel) would be 251.94 Gbytes long at a bit rate of 65Mbytes/s(559.87Mbits/s).

If the bit rate was lowered to 6.5Mbytes/s (55.987Mbits/s) using the video compression codec that you selected, then the file would also be ten times smaller, at a size of 25.194 Gbytes.

You could try making the bit rate smaller to 4.5Mbytes/s and then setting up a proportion using the same units,
(25,194.000Mbytes)*((4.5Mbytes/s)/(6.5Mbytes/s))=17,442.0Mbytes=17.442Gbytes

You could try making the bit rate even smaller to 2.4Mbytes/s and then setting up a proportion using the same units,
(25,194.000Mbytes)*((2.4Mbytes/s)/(6.5Mbytes/s))=9,302.4Mbytes=9.3024Gbytes

When I render a 4.5Mbyte/s video at 720x480p 24 bit color with no alpha channel,that is 5 minutes long, it has a file size of
(9,330Mbytes)*((4.5Mbytes/s)/(31.1Mbytes/s))=1,350Mbytes=1.35Gbytes

Oh, I think I made a mistake, I think “4.5mbps” means “mega BITS per second”, NOT “mega BYTES per second.

So my final file sizes divide by 8.

So 5 minute long video at the settings I mentioned is 168.75Mbytes file size.

So your one hour long video at the settings you mentioned if 4.5megabits/s was used that would be 2.18Gigabytes file size.

[Dieter Moreno]

Yes Vegas does render every audio and video track into the preview, or otherwise how else would you watch the preview?

Just the preview render is a quick render that is at a low quality so quality will improve after rendering.

If the preview rendering is taking forever, then I suspect that the standard rendering is taking even longer.

I suspect that either you don’t have enough RAM on your CPU and or your video card doesn’t have enough RAM and or you don’t even have a GPU video card you just have a CPU partition.

[Dieter Moreno]

[Linsey Roberts] “The files are all between 1 1/2 and 3 hours long, and the file size keeps coming out between 5 and 6 gigs – changing the bitrate doesn’t seem to be having an effect. I’m wondering if there is something different between Studio 11 and 12? My coworker uses 12 and also had this issue (never resolved), but I just assumed he was doing something wrong… Hope somebody has the answer. You’ll be my hero forever!
“

I’ve been having the same problem.

When you select a template, I have found that the default template for a file container has the bit rates fixed and even when you change them the changes will not take place in the render. That might be your problem. So select a different template and that will probably solve the problem.

If you selected an HD template, also I found that HD templates will only except HD bit rate values and when you change them the changes will not take place in the render. That might be your problem. So select a different template that is not HD and that will probably solve the problem.

I don’t know if Vegas Pro 11 or 12 resolved these issues. I have Vegas Pro 10.

If you are looking to make 6Gb 90 min long video into a size that can fit on a DVD (less than 4.5 Gb), use DVD quality settings.

DVD quality settings:
Average bit rate: 4500kbps
Resolution: 720×480 progressive (for NTSC nations) or 720×576 progressive (for PAL nations)

I don’t think its possible to have a DVD 3 hours long, because even if your computer can play it as a program stream file, the hardware DVD player might only be able to understand MPEG-2 encoded at average bit rate of 4500kbps and reject lower average bit rates like 2400kbps.

[Dieter Moreno]

Did you render uncompressed 1920×1080 progressive?

When I have rendered in uncompressed 1920×1080 progressive,it took up 55 Gb for a 4 minute long video after taking 3 hours.

I doubt that a 55 Gb 4 minute long video is your objective.

If it took 11 hours to render,assuming you have the same system specs as me (yours are better than mine) I’m guessing that your video is about 12 minutes long and outputed about a 165 Gb file.

[Dieter Moreno]

[Patrick Forestell] ” I want to burn a 720/480 29.97 DVD; preferably progressive (and post to YouTube). “

I think it would be easier to just save it as a file on your computer than to have the rendered content output to be a .vob file burned on a DVD, when your end goal is to upload to YouTube, since muxing and demuxing and converting from .vob to MPEG-2 can be a pain.

Maybe it looks messed up because maybe your DVD hardware player only is designed to play interlaced video to be compatible for analog television.

Does your field order look messed up on a DVD hardware player or when your play the DVD on your computer?

[Dieter Moreno]

Problem solved. Simple noob fail. The problem was that I was rendering at a higher quality than my external hard disc drive has room to store.

Solution is to render in MPEG-2 right in Vegas Pro 10 instead of first rendering in uncompressed and then compressing into MPEG-2.

That’s why it was saying I was missing dlls since I’m such an idiot it is revolting against me and shutting down so I don’t destroy it.

[Dieter Moreno]

Problem solved. Simple noob fail. The problem was that I was rendering at a higher quality than my external hard disc drive has room to store.

Solution is to render in MPEG-2 right in Vegas Pro 10 instead of first rendering in uncompressed and then compressing into MPEG-2.

[Dieter Moreno]

My Adobe After Effects also crashes for me when rendering when ever I reach a certain point. I did some trial and error and found out that that point is 700 frames when I have Kaspersky running, 4 YouTube videos tabs, 4 Facebook tabs, 4 WinRar archives running, WinAmp running, Windows Media Player running playing a song, and 40 Windows Explorer tabs open.

I found out that that point is 1400 frames when I close my internet browser.

I found out that that point is 1700 frames when I also close everything else in the above list.

I found out that that point is 800 frames when I close everything in the above list and my computer and my external HDD start to over heat and I solved that problem to get back up to 1700 frames by putting ice packs underneath my laptop and by putting an ice pack underneath my external HDD.

I have 3GB RAM and Adobe After Effects is installed on a 320 GB external HDD with 7200 RPM with 160 GB free space on the HDD, so that means that the 1700 frame limit for me is a RAM limit problem that would be solved by more RAM.

I have had no problems rendering in Vegas Pro 10 with 3 GB RAM, 7200 RPM external HDD, and 160 GB free space on external HDD, except I had problems with pixelated look at time one minute to time two minute in a 4 minute long video which I’m not sure what caused that it might be a lot of detailed motion in background for that minute bc if it was a RAM issue EVERYTHING would be pixelated after the first issue like in Adobe After Effects.

In Sony Vegas Pro I had problems with rendering to mp4 of no audio in movie when finished rendering and that I resolved by downloading and installing “Tippard Total Media Converter” which has all of the Apple QuickTime Pro 10 codecs bundeled in for free.

Your Sony Vegas Pro Movie Studio 12.0 freezing while rendering could thus from my experience be any one of these causes:

(1) You don’t have enough RAM installed.
(2) Your computer has a virus. Install AV protection and don’t double click on every thing you see.
(3) You have too many programs running at the same time as Vegas Pro. Close them.
(4) You have too many programs running on the side bar at the same time as Vegas Pro like Windows Media Player and WinAmp. Close them.
(5) You have your anti virus protection program running stealing valuable RAM so shut it off.
(6) Your HDD is only 4500 RPM and not 7500 RPM.
(7) You didn’t install Vegas Pro to an external HDD. Buy an external HDD and do that.
(8) Your cheap laptop has cooling fans on the bottom instead of on the sides. Buy a cooling fan.
(9) Your cheap external HDD has cooling fan on the bottom instead of on the sides. Buy a cooling fan.
(10) Your cheap laptop has cooling fans on sides but still has severe overheating problems. Your BIOS is corrupted likely by a virus. Download a new BIOS for your laptop and install it then reboot your computer then install AV protection and don’t click on every thing you see.
(11) Your computer still has a virus after installing AV protection and not double clicking on everything. Still useing IE? IE is extremely vulnervable to viruses. Download and install the free Google Chrome browser and download and install the free Adblock for Google Chrome.
(12) Your computer and external HDD still overheating? Put them on top of ice packs. I’m serious. It worked for me.
(13) Nothing above work? Did you download your Vegas Pro Movie Studio 12.0 from a torrent? Torrents often contain faulty crack patches that install viruses on your computer and crash the program. Use a safe torrent crack patch. Even safer than torrent crack patches are keygens. Keygens are very safe bc it does not need to modify your program usually it just generates a serial and an activation code and a machine ID.