Can Vegas Pro 10 record multitracking audio since it supports muxing and demuxing and it says “Professional Audio Production”?

[John Rofrano]

[Dieter Moreno] “Can Vegas Pro 10 record multitracking audio since it supports muxing and demuxing and it says “Professional Audio Production”?”

Yes absolutely you can. You just need an audio interface that has multiple inputs.

[Dieter Moreno] “Like if I had two USB external sound cards each connected to a different USB port, could Vegas Pro 10 select to simultaneously record each drive as a separate elementary stream, and then I could export the tracks to individual files to edit in Audacity by I mute the track that I don’t want then render as separate elementary streams then convert to WAV then repeat the process for the other track that was recorded simultaneously as the first track?”

You can’t do this. You need a single audio device that has multi-channel input. You can’t use two audio devices.

~jr

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[Stephen Mann]

I use a Presonus Firepod (8-channel preamp with Firewire output) on an old laptop running Vegas 10.

Steve Mann
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[Dieter Moreno]

[Stephen Mann] “I use a Presonus Firepod (8-channel preamp with Firewire output) on an old laptop running Vegas 10.”

How do you do it?

When you connect your audio interface to your laptop, Vegas 10 can select the input channel from the audio interface to record to, then the method that I mentioned with recording then rendering as MPEG-2 elementary streams to demux the signal into separate audio tracks works?

How likely is it that Avid was nice enough to make a universal file container transport stream for all of its audio interfaces that will run on 3rd party software other than Avid Pro Tools? 0% chance?

Is this compatable with Vegas Pro 10?: Avid Recording Studio audio interface
$126
48KHZ
24bit
Stereo
USB
2 line in 1/4 inch
1 XLR
1 headphone jack 1/8 inch

[John Rofrano]

[Dieter Moreno] “When you connect your audio interface to your laptop, Vegas 10 can select the input channel from the audio interface to record to, then the method that I mentioned with recording then rendering as MPEG-2 elementary streams to demux the signal into separate audio tracks works?”

When you connect a multi-channel audio interface to Vegas Pro, you can select the channel to record from when you ARM the track.

[Dieter Moreno] “How likely is it that Avid was nice enough to make a universal file container transport stream for all of its audio interfaces that will run on 3rd party software other than Avid Pro Tools? 0% chance?”

100% chance because Avid doesn’t make that interface, it’s made by M-Audio a company that they acquired.

[Dieter Moreno] “Is this compatable with Vegas Pro 10?: Avid Recording Studio audio interface”

Yes, but that’s a stereo interface so it can only record two channels at a time. As Stephen said, you need to purchase an audio interface that has multi-channel input. I have the Presonus FireStudio which has 8 inputs so Vegas Pro can record up to 8 tracks at a time with that.

~jr

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[Dave Haynie]

[Dieter Moreno] “When you connect your audio interface to your laptop, Vegas 10 can select the input channel from the audio interface to record to,”

Indeed. I use a Tascam US-1800, which offers 16-channel recording. I think most pro-class audio interfaces will have ASIO drivers, which usually allow you to record individual mono tracks as well as stereo pair.

Think about recording as something self-contained. When you’re doing the recording, your goal should be to capture the highest quality audio you can muster. That’s all. How you’re going to process that audio comes later.. that’s why they call it “post”.

[Dieter Moreno] “then the method that I mentioned with recording then rendering as MPEG-2 elementary streams to demux the signal into separate audio tracks works?”

Not sure what you’re after here. MPEG-2 audio is never something to speak of during the recording process — that’s a rendering thing. If you need MPEG-2 audio for some project, fine, but otherwise, it’s the wrong direction.

For any audio track in Vegas, it’s trivial to render it out to the format of your choice, independently of anything else in the project. If you have a stereo pair track, you can switch that track to just left or right, solo that track, and render to your uncompressed format of choice. But as mentioned, with pro-level drivers, you should have the option of individual inputs recorded to individual tracks.

My usual mobile recording rig is a 4-U rack with the Tascam and two 2-channel tube amps, so I have 12 channels of mic and two instrument inputs (most of the mic ins also take instruments, if necessary). I have a dedicated PC for this, but eventually I’ll put in a 1U rackmount PC, to make it a little easier to set up. I do my mixing in Vegas (though I might switch to Sonar if I ever bother to learn it better, for audio-only projects), but Vegas … 9 or 10, don’t recall for sure.. crashed on me during a recording session. Once. And it was a silent crash — some Vegas background thing crashed, and the UI didn’t report it. So I’m using Reaper now for the recording part.

-Dave

[Dieter Moreno]

[John Rofrano] “When you connect a multi-channel audio interface to Vegas Pro, you can select the channel to record from when you ARM the track.”

What do you mean by “ARM the track”?

[Dieter Moreno]

[John Rofrano] “[Dieter Moreno] “Is this compatable with Vegas Pro 10?: Avid Recording Studio audio interface”
Yes, but that’s a stereo interface so it can only record two channels at a time. As Stephen said, you need to purchase an audio interface that has multi-channel input. I have the Presonus FireStudio which has 8 inputs so Vegas Pro can record up to 8 tracks at a time with that.”

Is’nt that interface that I mentioned one that has 3 channels total?:
–1/4 inch line in
–1/4 inch line in
–XLR jack

I’m not sure if the 1/4 inch line in jacks are mono or stereo. I didn’t buy it yet. I only read the specifications. I would have to look at it in the store to see if it has one black ring or two black rings on the inside. A mono 1/4 inch jack has one black enamel ring separating two metal electrodes, where one is hot and the other is ground. A stereo 1/4 inch jack has two black enamel rings separating three metal electrodes, where one is hot left, one is hot right, and the other is ground.

Isn’t XLR jack stereo because it has 3 prongs and 1 prong is hot left, 1 prong is ground, and 1 prong is hot right?

[John Rofrano]

[Dieter Moreno] “What do you mean by “ARM the track”?”

You press the Arm for Record button in the track header to enable it to record. Like this:

~jr

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[John Rofrano]

[Dieter Moreno] “Is’nt that interface that I mentioned one that has 3 channels total?:
–1/4 inch line in
–1/4 inch line in
–XLR jack”

No, the second 1/4 inch line in and the XLR share the same socket so you can only plug in one or the other but not both. If you look closely at the picture, there is a round hole in the middle of the XLR input. This is where you would plug in the 1/4 inch jack. Once you do that you can no longer plug in the XLR.

[Dieter Moreno] “I’m not sure if the 1/4 inch line in jacks are mono or stereo. I didn’t buy it yet. I only read the specifications.”

They are mono inputs.

[Dieter Moreno] “Isn’t XLR jack stereo because it has 3 prongs and 1 prong is hot left, 1 prong is ground, and 1 prong is hot right?”

No, XLR is a balanced input. One wire is positive, the second wire is negative and inverted with respect to the first, and the third wire is a braided ground shield. This isolates the negative from the ground and by inverting the negative it allows for long cable lengths because of the way the signal is recombined at the other end using phase cancellation to remove any noise that may have been introduced in the line. So XLR is balanced mono.

~jr

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