David Shirey
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[John Rofrano] “Use Sony AVC with the Blu-ray 1920×1080-60i, 16 Mbps video stream template”
The GoPro HD (I just got one for x-mas too!) shoots only progressive. Would you still use 60i if the source is progressive? I’ve never made a 1080p blu-ray before but I’m guessing you’d just manually change that and maybe up the bitrate to like 19mbps? If he’s shooting at 720@60p you’d render out a 720@30p blu-ray right?
Edit: Okay turns out blu-ray only supports 1080p at 24fps and supports 720@60p. I didn’t realize it wasn’t capable of 1080@30p.
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[Mike Kujbida] “That’s OK John.
We know that the “cream” always rises to the top :-)”I herd that!
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I guess 1080i@60 is vague because it could be 1920 or 1440, but this footage is all 1440, and as I mentioned they were captured on Sony EX-1’s, so I guess they were “captured” by importing the XDCAM footage into FCP through Sony’s XDCAM Browser which as I understand just sort of rewraps the mp4 files into a Quicktime mov container. I don’t know if that changes anything in terms of how to export it?
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Well we did have all the sequence settings match the exact type of footage we were using. Of all the methods we tried, exporting a 1440x1080i prores quicktime file out of FCP then putting that into compressor seemed to work best. It still left smaller jaggies on some still scenes but it’s way better than what we were getting. A 1080p file had absolutely no jaggies on scenes that were still, but created the worst warbled interlacing effects on anything with motion so obviously that’s no way to go. Exporting 720×480 prores files from FCP then converting those to mpeg2 had awful results. Due to the extra time involved our ultimate solution is to just get another PC system, but it looks like we’re going to keep this around so we can tweak projects that freelancers edit for us, so I appreciate everyone helping us fix this.
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Thanks for that detailed process, it’s great to know what is needed for best results. Unfortunately if we had to actually render out 3 separate files before making a DVD, the process would be so time-consuming it would be in our best interests to chuck the mac out a window and just build another PC for a third of the price. Our FCP guy is trying several methods posted here right now, so I’ll have him try it your way also just to see what yields the best results, thanks!
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… you do stupid things like post Final Cut Pro questions in the Adobe Premiere forum. Cheers!
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Vegas has a built in XDCAM clip importer which you can certainly use if you want to keep all the folder structures in tact and inport them that way. What I prefer is to make one folder called “media”, then in the XDCAM Browser you select all the clips on however many cards there are, and export to “MXF for NLEs” Then tell it to export to the folder you want. Keep that original BPAV folder on some external drive as a backup. Then just go to explorer into that folder and drag the MXF files into the timeline. You want want to set Windows to show file extensions just to make it easier to identify mxf files. I feel like the only reason that ever got implemented by default was to be more like Apple so that people don’t have to learn what different types of files are. Can you imagine a world where we all just call files pictures and movies instead of actually knowing what filetypes they are?
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In Vegas just got to File > Properties, then in the top right there’s a button that says match media settings if you let the mouse linger over it a second. Click that and select one of your clips. Vegas will adjust all the timeline settings based on your footage. If you’re mixing 1080p and 720p I’d just leave the timeline at 1080p. Then when you’re done if you want to drop down to DVD, just render out an mpeg2 file instead of whatever format you normally do.
If you know ahead of time that you’re only ever going DVD then you could always export the clips from XDCAM Browser as standard definition, which would take a lot of time but make the editing less system-intensive and render the final product faster. Of course by that logic since you have the EX1-r you could just shoot the footage in standard def too. I’d keep it all in HD since I never know when a client might decide they want it in HD a year from now, but some projects just get shown once on DVD then are never viewed again.
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Well, Vegas 10 is a whole lot better at EDITING H.264 files, but in terms of rendering, I wouldn’t spend a dollar just to have a present added to the list under Sony AVC. You know you can change the settings you want then just give it a new name and save it. Call it 1280x720p and hit the save icon.
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Sony AVC is H.264, so you’re all set there. Vegas 9 doesn’t have the 1280x720p format from the first drop down box. If you choose the Blu-ray 1440x1080i template and go to Custom then use the drop-down menu for Format, it’ll have 1280×720 there. I don’t know why some people (Mac users) are so concerned that the exact same codec video be in an Mov wrapper.