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  • Questions about H.264 and 1280x720p

    Posted by Charles Martin on November 18, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    A new client of mine would like me to deliver material in 1280x 720p. Thats not a problem as I have a camera that can shoot in that format.
    Having never used it before (the format that is) i have never used Vegas to cut in it. I’ve just seen that Vegas does not have HD template for 1280x 720p…Its in the HDV grouping…what is the reason for that?
    I’ve just sent them a test file which I cut in 1920x 1080 HD …then ‘rendered’ using the Sony AVC setting…mp4 HD…and it worked fine.
    They did say to me that I need to use an H.264 Codec. If I send as outlined above is it also H.264… or do I need to use a different render setting? I have searched through them all and cannot seem to find H.264.
    They were wondering if I could use Quicktime and send H.264 using quicktime… but don’t think Vegas will do that…correct?
    I am a bit under the gun so I anyone has some quick answers…(John?) I would be greatful…

    Dave Haynie replied 15 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Jim Greene

    November 18, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    As I understand it, Sony’s AVC is the h.264 codec you need to use. Vegas Pro version 10 does have the 1280x 720p template, are you using v10?

    -Jim.

  • David Shirey

    November 18, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Sony AVC is H.264, so you’re all set there. Vegas 9 doesn’t have the 1280x720p format from the first drop down box. If you choose the Blu-ray 1440x1080i template and go to Custom then use the drop-down menu for Format, it’ll have 1280×720 there. I don’t know why some people (Mac users) are so concerned that the exact same codec video be in an Mov wrapper.

  • Charles Martin

    November 18, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Thanks to both for quick response. I had already used the ‘sony AVC’ to send an .mp4 figuring it used the H.264 codec. It worked absolutely fine–they said the file was great.
    and yes…thats the problem with FCP people they figure everything has to be .mov … but in this case the .mp4 worked perfectly fine.
    Re. the 1280x 720p template issue. I have at present Sony Vegas Pro 9e… I may have just found justification for upgrading to SVP 10. ..

  • David Shirey

    November 18, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Well, Vegas 10 is a whole lot better at EDITING H.264 files, but in terms of rendering, I wouldn’t spend a dollar just to have a present added to the list under Sony AVC. You know you can change the settings you want then just give it a new name and save it. Call it 1280x720p and hit the save icon.

  • Dave Haynie

    November 23, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    We are a little spoiled, being on both Vegas and Windows. Vegas supports pretty much every format, and while Windows has its faults, it’s kind of the UN of media formats.

    MacOS is like main street in Western Ohio. There only cultural influence is the local one… Apple. If you’re not in an Apple format, forget about it. Even to suggest adding a CODEC (for example, you can produce super high quality output, in .mov format, in Avid DNxHD or Cineform from Vegas, but many Mac houses will demand ProRes, only because that’s Apple’s version of pretty much the same thing) makes them nuts.

    It’s very unlikely that standard formats like AVC rendered in an .mp4 wrapper will have any problem on a Mac. This is kind of a given… the MPEG-4 Part 14 spec, which defined the .mp4 file structure, is based on Quicktime (.mov). They are not identical, but it’s trivial for any .mov reader to handle .mp4. Chances are, if the Quicktime player on your PC is happy with your .mp4 file, so will the Mac reader/player.

    -Dave

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