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[Jeremy Garchow] “Aindreas is terrified of “direct debit”.”
I’m not so fond of the idea either.
[Jeremy Garchow] “Let’s just throw out the hypothetical that one might not be working every day.
So, a person can use it for 2 months for $120. Come back one month later and spend another $60.
That’s $180 over four months.
You still own the project files, you still own the media, you just have to check in the software.
If you happen to be working all the time, it’s a heck of a deal. “
You’re missing the point. It has nothing to do with money.
As long as you have to “check in” with Adobe, Adobe owns access to your property. Maybe that’s OK with you but it’s unacceptable to me.
Here’s another hypothetical. I spent most of December on an artist residency in Buenos Aires. It was awesome. My internet connection on the other hand, was not awesome. Maybe spotty at best. I also used to spend a lot of time in Costa Rica. Where I stayed we had electricity, but zero phone or internet connectivity. Why should my tools stop working in these places if I’m lucky to be able to be there for a couple months?
The rental model is inappropriate in these and many other situations.
[Jeremy Garchow] “I liked it in to renting a camera. We do it all the time, so “renting” software doesn’t seem like a big deal to me. “
The problem with your analogy is that you don’t need to keep renting the camera to play back the files you create with it. What if every time you wanted to play the video you created with the Alexa, you had to go rent the Alexa? That’s what software rental makes you do.
The only reason software rental many not seem like a big deal is because the rental price is cheap (for now). Once you look at the cost in terms of access, ownership and lock-in, cheap suddenly isn’t such a great deal.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I’m talking to Aindreas. “
Yes, I know. Apologies for butting in. I was just taken aback by your statement:
[Jeremy Garchow] “On the one hand, you seem to be extra mad at Apple for cutting off access to a very popular NLE, on the other, you are extra mad that you don’t get your tools for free. This is a business, not a charity and I’m glad the folks at Adobe see value in thier own product. “
I mean, come on. Really?
[Jeremy Garchow] “Three of what in a row?”
Three Futurerama clips in a row, all instantly thrown up in response to Dave McGavran’s post about new Premiere Pro media management features
#1) https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/50917
#2) https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/50920
#3) https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/51005The notion that anyone expects these tools for free is complete nonsense.
That’s all I was pointing out.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “on the other, you are extra mad that you don’t get your tools for free. This is a business, not a charity and I’m glad the folks at Adobe see value in thier own product. “
Huh??? No one’s talking about getting tools for free. Just the opposite. Maybe you missed this? Three in a row. Just sayin.
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Thanks for the review, Greg. Can’t wait to try it!
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[Steve Connor] “Mine works very nicely with PPro6”
I’d still like to hear from the OP about what kind of h264 files he’s trying to cut. My money’s on QuickTime as the culprit in his problems.
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[Morten Ranmar] “When CS6 came out there was no more than 512 Vram available – so obviously Adobe did not feel the need for Mobile Mac users to have a very good experience…”
Please see my post above. You don’t need hardware acceleration to cut h264 and have a good experience with Premiere Pro. I’m doing just fine with a late-2008 MacBook Pro. My theory is you’re having trouble with QuickTime.
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[Morten Ranmar] “Sorry to say, I am not impressed with Premiere Pro. If the application cannot playback a simple stream of H264 on a powerful machine, I would suggest it is not optimized properly for Mac.”
Hmmm, something must be off with your set-up. I’m able to play 4K RED at 1/16 resolution on a late 2008 Macbook Pro without breaking a sweat. H264 cuts like butter.
One thought –
Are your h264 files wrapped as QuickTime .mov files? If so, try importing the raw h264 streams.
I recently ran into difficulty with some AVCHD footage from a Panasonic HMC40. Mountain Lion wants to wrap them in QuickTime during import. These AVCHD QuickTime .mov files were unplayable in Premiere. They’d drop frames, and freeze.
So I tried importing the raw AVCHD streams directly from a clone of the card. Premiere had no trouble with the raw streams at all. They play perfectly smooth.
If your files are wrapped in QuickTime, that could be what’s messing you up.
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[TImothy Auld] “I don’t care what century it is, it is still stealing. Because everyone steals is it OK?”
That’s one way of looking at it, here’s another:
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[Steve Connor] “Which is why it’s relevant for users to express their opinions about this possibility, Adobe clearly listens so if they are considering this then a groundswell of opinion might actually stop it happening.”
Agreed.
The other thing that we need to keep in mind is that we post-production professionals here at the COW represent a just a tiny slice of the global industry that relies on Creative Suite.
Adobe Creative Suite tools are the de facto standard for the entire digital media industry at all levels. I cannot imagine Adobe management would try to force such a radical licensing change on everyone in the world who uses Adobe tools. The blowback would be ungodly. It would make the blowback Microsoft got when they recently tried something similar with Office 2013/365 look like a tea party.
Then again, as much as I’m in complete awe of what Adobe engineers and product managers have achieved in two product cycles, I don’t put it past Marketing and Senior Management to completely F things up.
Please Adobe, don’t blow it. We want to give you our money. Please give us a choice.
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[Herb Sevush] “On the other hand I can see positive value for an organization to have one perpetual license and then be able to supplement that with cloud versions for as many additional seats as you needed for as long as you needed. It would make a facility extremely flexible to be able to expand and then contract on a project by project basis, but only so long as there was one perpetual license to anchor the whole flow.”
Agreed. This seems like one of the ideal scenarios for a subscription model.
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