David Alfredo
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if the rendering process crashes at the exact same time every time ? then Vegas doesn’t like something at that point in the timeline, any video effect ? transition ? titles ?
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what Norman said, AMD 7XXX series = Nvidia 6XX series for Vegas Pro 11 & 12, accelerating some effects and previewing and also helping with rendering of certain Sony AVC templates… that’s all, in my experience OpenCL is not optimized yet for best results, a fast AMD GPU using openCL will render slower than some average 5XX last-gen Nvidia GPU.
It’s alright since Sony engineers starting with CUDA and it shows, OpenCL was added as an after-thought… I wonder with the new AMD and Nvidia rebrands (8XXX – 7XX series) if Sony will take the time to properly support these GPUs through OpenCL / CUDA anytime soon, I know Nvidia is trying with latest 314.22 WHQL drivers but broke support again with 320.00 beta
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“trashing” = fragmented data, you’d rather look into upgrading the RAM in your PC, should be cheap.
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most definitely some video effect or source material requiring more RAM than you have, might want to try bumping the page-file but it would cause hard-drive trashing and renders would complete very slowly… not recommended, just upgrade your PC specs, RAM is very cheap.
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thanks John, yes that folder is the first thing to delete, I’m baffled we are in 2013 (cars should be flying by now, movies told me) and drivers are still so bad at “house keeping”, the amount of garbage Windows gathers as new drivers/software builds keep coming is unbelievable, to the point I usually perform a fresh Windows back-up install from a fast USB 3.0 device before upgrading GPU drivers / software build…
…yes I’m that paranoid, I have a degree on Computing Arts and I know first hand we believe we’re running “clean” operating systems when in fact after a couple of weeks they are a bunch of registry keys pointing to broken links, dll’s in wrong places, .NET Framework failing to updating software to latest compile standards… I miss being ignorant about all this.
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[Edward Troxel] “David, could you go to newbluefx.com and send us a support e-mail? We’d certainly like to hear more about the issues you were having and this process you used.”
ok thanks, of course I will ! basically Film Express video effects (latest version, Windows 7 64 Bit for Sony Vegas Pro 64 Bit and Titler Pro 2 64 Bit) would crash Vegas Pro 12 as soon as it was “dropped” into the timeline, on the other hand Video Essentials 4 – Timer effect would work but crash Vegas as soon as you tried to render using the GPU (either the 570 or the 660 Ti, the Quadro was fine though), the system would perform fine with GPU acceleration disabled though, but then again what’s the point of GPU-accelerated plugins…
anyways, I remembered that on Vegas Pro 11 I used to have the same problem with Film Express (older version of course) and tried to make sure the GPU acceleration on the plugins was enabled after Vegas’ own acceleration. Also I believe, being based on openGL, I discovered that the “threaded optimization” setting in the Nvidia Control Panel would affect the stability of some versions of the plugins… but this is long story, I’ll e-mail NewBlue from my workplace trying to make myself clear, but so far so good with the steps I noted above : )
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[Thayalan Paramasawam] “Hi Mr.David,
I am also AMD user.I am using the latest pro…FX8350.My motherboard support Gtx cards,so i am using ASUS GTX650 and its working very well.”
hi ! well yes the 6XX series with latest WHQL drivers are seeing improvements now, with the incoming 7XX series using the same architecture I expect both will be fully supported sooner than later, and yes definitely your AMD FX8350 is a great CPU for video editing, but for some plugins I use which doesn’t fully support GPU or multi-threading the single-core performance of the Intel 3770-3770K is unrivaled, not even the 6-cores 39XX achieve that performance for the plugins I use, I guess we build our editing PCs with the plugins, extensions, output codecs and all that we use more often in mind.
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restore back the registry backup you did before running CCleaner, sometimes this type of registry cleaners software can break your system by deleting “key” keys… before trying to clean your registry is always advisable to do a full OS backup just in case, at least a full registry backup, good luck.
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[Anthony Desjardins] “I see what you’re trying to say but whats weird is that the first two times i rendered, it gave me realistic render times. this was also done on the same computer where the cpu was used to its full potential. so i dont think buying a dedicated gpu will solve my problem but it would definitely help me in the future.
“sorry if I’m “trying” to properly comment here, I’m obviously not a native English speaker, I’m Spanish and took advanced German and French at school so I just speak the most basic English you can learn in Spain public school. With that said I’d like to know if the issue you’re experiencing with Vegas rendering happens with the exact same settings you used those times it was running fine for you…
I mean, same integrated-GPU drivers, same Vegas build, same source material, the same template with same plugins’ versions if you used them in the first place… you cannot judge performance based on different codecs/templates/source material/desired output/plugins chain…
if that’s indeed the case and suddenly the performance has severely dropped then it’s a hardware-related issue, is your CPU overclocked ? if it is… is your PSU (power supply unit) rated for your CPU ? have you upgraded the drivers of your integrated Intel GPU ? have you tried resetting Vegas to default (hold CTRL+SHIFT while booting Vegas) ? in any case I would recommend uninstalling and re-installing your IGP drivers, then re-installing DirectX, booting Vegas with default settings, disabling GPU acceleration, restart computer and enable acceleration back, report back after that. Good luck.
Edit: Also, go into Control Panel -> Install/Uninstall programs -> Windows Updates and look for Update KB2670838 or Internet Explorer 10, if you are using IE10 you definitely have KB2670838 installed, get rid of it and hide it from auto-updating, that update can mess with your system performance and it’s not fixed yet.
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you definitely need a dedicated video card, try and grab a cheap 560 Ti or, if money isn’t an issue, a GTX 570 off ebay or similar since they are pretty much discontinued but the best cards for Sony Vegas Pro 11 and 12 nowadays. For the time being you make sure you turn GPU acceleration OFF in Vegas preferences and use just the CPU for rendering. Maybe the next integrated GPUs in Haswell CPUs this summer will be enough to run Vegas, specially those in the 4770 processors, but nothing compared to a dedicated card, even if it is a low end 1 GB 5XX past generation Nvidia card.