[Daniel Frome]

So what if we don’t own motion? Can’t do this trick?

Thank you for thinking about us though 🙂

[Daniel Frome]

[Jeremy Garchow] “but not having audio only dissolve don’t bother me.”

I appreciate the helping advice to clear up the situation. It’s quite easy to see how this works for you. If I were to adopt FCPX I would clearly quit fighting this and simply “do it that way.”

I find that many of my secondary elements (as well as audio elements) end on the same frame as the primary story counterpart. This makes the trim functions frustrating because they don’t come with a way to choose whether I want the choose the primary, secondary, or other audio elements. Every trim command defaults to the primary story elements — often not what I want. Eventually you just habitually grab the mouse and click on the element that you want to invoke trim functions on. For a number of wrist and creative reasons, that is just not the way I choose to work.

For me and my habits, this is feels like … by the time we’ve accounted mouse-driven point-and-click of secondary and audio elements, I might as well have just rather had a “track” bound to my keyboard and “done it that way instead.” The FCPX trim commands work well if there is only 1 cut near your playhead, but that means as your edits gets more complex, the work gets harder (and yes it also gets harder with the other NLEs, but not to the same degree in my humble opinion).

If I am to work in a way that is complimentary to FCPX’s design, should I be relying less on trimming? Or is mouse-driven interaction just designed into the process of complex trim’s via FCPX?

[Daniel Frome]

[Jeremy Garchow] “This is almost my number 1 feature request”

Yeah… it’s practically a must, just barely a head of audio-only dissolves.

[Daniel Frome]

I can navigate myself around FCPX fairly well … but the thing that still irks me is that I cannot “select clip” on a secondary storyline element without hovering my mouse point on it. Is there a way to definitively select secondaries/audio elements via keyboard ?

[Daniel Frome]

Small Wacom Intuos Pro
Avid Artist Control
Avis Artist Transport

Note that I don’t use these for productivity gains over a keyboard per se. I just have really bad wrists, and letting me mash buttons, audio levers, and jog wheels for 10 hours/day is physically easier than locking them into a keyboard position.

[Daniel Frome]

This is exactly what I figured. I’m definitely going to experiment with this once I land a project that is suited for Final Cut X.

[Daniel Frome]

[tony west] “By grabbing one clip everything with that clip is going to go “automatically”

Are you saying that’ how Prp works? How would it know which tracks you want moved if you didn’t tell it at some point.”

Yeah, it sort of does, let me explain:
Pretend I have a complex arrangement of transitions, music, FX, and videoclips on my timeline. I first select them all and “group.” From now on, whenever I select any one of those components, all the items in the group are selected, allowing me to move around, delete, etc, the whole arrangement more or less as if it was one clip.

As for “how does it know which tracks?” – it relies on the the mouse pointer. The click/drag function will let you keep everything on the same tracks, or slide everything up/down some tracks if you are dragging it there. I think the idea of tracks probably does not make it as efficient as FCPX here, but it’s honestly hardly ever an issue.

[Daniel Frome]

[John Rofrano] “the fact that the sound fx and music and overlays and whatever else is associated with it moves with it is pure genius.”

Can someone explain how this is different than grouping a series of elements on the Premiere Pro timeline? If I group, then moving something will keep them together in much the same way, no?

[Daniel Frome]

Just wanted to say that you’ve summarized the Avid situation better than I’ve ever seen anyone else do it.

Now… I just wish that the Avid brass would see it that way too 😉 The way they treat Media Composer, it feels like the bastard child of the family.

[Daniel Frome]

It seemed like they had a good amount of purchases … myself included. Sadly, I haven’t even used it much.

Purely speculation: Based on water-cooler talk with fellow editors in my realm of broadcast, it seems like Premiere Pro has basically won the passage rights to be the “next NLE.” That’s not to say FCPX isn’t technically superior in some ways … there’s just so many people out there that aren’t caring/using FCPX that it’s sort of a circular argument.