Clint Nitkiewicz hernandez
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Hey Lars, do you have any links to the film, or to where you read the info at? I just really want to dive in this stuff, thanks!!!
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Wow awesome! Sounds like just the film for me to watch right now in my pre-production stages, I plan on shooting with a hvx200 with a m2 adapter, so what a better time to do so, possibly contact the dp for the film as well. Thanks so much.
Clint Nitkiewicz Hern
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Awesome, guess I dont have to trade in my ibook for a powerbook, and can use firewire as opposed to the PCMI slots which I dont have, nor do I need to buy a card reader! Party time!
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I wish there were a clear cut answer, but here is what I conclude in regards to the hvx200
720p;
– 720 lines
– 24 native frames no pulldown required
– excellent slow motion capabilities
– smaller file sizes than 1080 p.a
– closer look to film.1080 p.a;
– 1080 lines
– 60frames but with 2:3:2:3 removal in final cut it is now 23.98 frames of un interlaced
footage
– much larger file sizes than 720p mode, only 4 minutes on 4gb p2 card, 8 mins on 8gig, etc.
– more of the dv blur, even after the 2:3:2:3 pulldown, so looks less like film.Say I shot the film on both formats, (which I would never do, I really have to choose), and I dont care a bout bigger file sizes, but I really do care about it looking like film, and I do plan on doing heavy post production anyway, I have seen films which look like HDV because they have a certain type of motion blur which real 35mm film does not have.
Which will have less of the digital blur most cheesy HDV films have, 720p or the 1080pa option with 2:3:2:3 removal?
I want to avoid this at all means. Thanks a million!
Clint Nitkiewicz Hern
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Ahhh, thanks Austin, everything is much clearer now! I work in a post house, where the Flame artists add grain, and color correct, etc, but it almost always is going to be shown on television. I guess that topic is not mentioned too much, whether to add grain or not if ones ultimate goal is theatrical release.
What is your recommendation may I ask?
Say all of George Lucas’s films, and other digital films shot on high end either vipers or f900s, they all film without grain.
Do you think they added grain in post, and added an additional natural coat when they printed to film? Or do you think they did not add any grain, and let the 35mm print do its job?
Because I know I can have my technique, but its good to know what others are doing, to stay on the safe side.
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Thanks Barry! But shooting at 1080 at 24pa, will that give you a better film look than say 720p, after I do a 2:3:2:3 pulldown in fcp? I simply dont want to sacrafice the fluidity of 24p (native) so I can earn extra pixels, but if you can have both, great, thats my goal,
Clint Nitkiewicz Hern
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Thanks Austin, that is some definate good info. Lets take the film 28 days later for example, shot on cannon xl1, no grain on original tape.
For theatrical release, looked great, like it was shot on film.
Did they not add grain in post, and just allow the 35mm print to do the grain adding for them, which is totally natural, or.
Did they add grain in post, and the print to 35mm added another coat of grain?
My goal is for optimal results as theirs… Thanks.
Seems to me like all these post tools to add grain, etc, are simply for shows that will air on television or go straight to dvd, not ever to touch a real film print, though correct me if Im wrong.
Thanks, and I welcome the more feedback the better, grain can get a bit confusing, especially when everyone is using it for different reasons, television, the web, dvd, theatrical release as I.
Clint Nitkiewicz Hern
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Really, shooting at 720p is better than 1080pa? Even though I want the best quality and highest resolution, while maintaining the film look, If selected for theatrical release will I have a problem by its original size being only 720? thanks alot for the post,I just never realized shooting at a lower resolution may look better…
Clint Nitkiewicz Hern
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Hmm, sounds good. So my goal is for theatrical distribution, transfering to a 35mm print.
That brings up a new question to add to the list.
1. What is the best adding grain to 1080p HD footage?
2. Would one add grain to the HD master, or would the 35mm grain add naturally without any filters when transferred to a 35mm print, meaning adding grain in post, will double, the actual grain on the 35mm print.
3. Should I have 2 versions of the final master.
– 1 version with grain – to show at festivals, etc, to replicate to DVD,
– 1 version without grain – incase my film gets picked up for 35mm transfer, to allow the 35mm print to add the grain automatically?
–Clint Nitkiewicz Hern
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Excellent information Jefferey, that is exactly the basic info I was looking for, I will go to the camera shop with my still camera and figure stuff out. Wow excellent comments Alex, so funny, I have a good sense of humor so I take nothing of your words offensive, because it is practical information. I have been in a hurry for this shoot, but you are right about going things right. But this is my first feature, and I plan to learn along the way, Iam a hands on learn as I go type of guy, never believed in film school, but always belived in sharing information as we are now, this is the best school I believe, talking with people, helping others. I had good luck to have you guys give me the basic info I needed to keep moving forward to the next steps. Perhaps in the near future you will find me blogging on my expertise on cinematography, haa. I think its great that we can walk around on the web with no pride, and ask the most basic questions and not be judged because we are all learning artists. Take care guys, my journey has begun. Thanks Jeffery for your suggestions, and thanks Todd and Alex for letting me see the bigger picture.