Chuck Pullen
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Good points Dave, I agree it’s not a simple task to handle every format with the “Wild West” of HD formats as I believe John mentioned previously. But again, they should really draw a line in the sand…if they’re not going to support ProRes, then they should just say so, and I’ll find someone who can support my workflow. They are being intentionally vague about codec support, every update includes “stability updates” but they never really say what they addressed and what they didn’t. I would really appreciate if they would let us know whether or not they addressed a specific problem so I know whether to waste my time or not.
[Dave Haynie] “On a personal level, sorry we didn’t do enough back in the early 90s to keep the Amiga alive, thus letting Apple jump into the video thing before PCs were really ready, and thus creating this situation.”
I wish you would have too Dave, I really miss the original Video Toaster! It’s like your first car/first girlfriend…There will always be a special place in my heart for the Toaster…and Kiki’s legs transitioning across the screen!
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Thanks for jumping in on this Jay, I totally agree the “3D” stuff totally irked me as well. You have an even higher end machine than me, and you are experiencing the same issues.
For everyone else telling me I should stick to different formats…I understand your position, but really think about you are saying. “You shouldn’t use JVC cameras with Firestore’s, you shouldn’t use a Ki Pro, if you want to edit on Vegas” I understand the propriety aspects of codec’s especially with ProRes, but to say that I should have to limit a workflow I am very happy with because my NLE can’t handle it, that is very backwards thinking. Since the NLE is at the end of the production chain, shouldn’t it be able to handle all of the latest file formats especially ones that are from mainstream companies and growing in popularity? Shouldn’t Sony be quicker to release updates to edit these files, or at the very least be honest and give a list of files it can and cannot handle?
If I have a client that specs out a certain workflow for a project…Do I tell them “No I can’t do your project because you want to record on Ki Pros, and I can’t edit that file” I shouldn’t be able to use JVC pro cameras because my NLE doesn’t like the files it generates?
This isn’t just an issue with the HDV files I mentioned in my last post. Last night I was working on SD project, nothing but AVI’s and .WAVs, and I was having the same crashing and strange quirky editing issues I experienced with the HDV project the day before.
Again, many of you are having great success with versions 9 and 10…Many of us aren’t, and Sony doesn’t seem to very forth coming with advice or solutions even though it’s been a while since the 64-bit version 9 came out, and 10 really isn’t a major update, its based on the same architecture.
This isn’t a $50 video game or a $0.99 Iphone app. This is supposed to be a professional editing program, that we all pay several hundred dollars for every time an update comes out, I would really expect better support, and quicker resolutions with bugs than I have seen from Sony over the past couple of years.
Chuck
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Thank you both for your input I sincerely do appreciate it. Doug you have your own shelf in my office is that’s any indication of how much I value your opinion…
To answer your question, for example I am working on a project at this very moment that will give you some perspective. I have four iso’s, a line cut, and four track audio of a concert. First I tried opening the iso’s (.m2t from firestores) no matter what I open or the order I open it, it crashes. I had to open all of them in Premiere and convert them to use in Vegas. I then spent another fun filled few hours trying to get Vegas to see the line cut correctly (ProRes from a Ki Pro) I finally get the ProRes open, am trying to sync the audio, and wherever I click on the time line, the ProRes audio starts from the beginning. It crashed at least ten to twenty times just to get to that point.
Take a few moments to count the number of posts just in the last month that deal specifically with stability, or crashing issues I have mentioned with Vegas 9 or 10. I would easily say that at least 1/3 of the posts on this forum are from people frustrated that no matter what they do they are having some serious issues.
Again, both of you are having success with Vegas, but many of us are not. Could it be our processors, our memory, mother boards? I would find it extremely unlikely that there is a common hardware link between all of us.
I sincerely ask anyone who has direct access to the Vegas engineers or will be seeing them in April to let them know…there are some seriously unhappy loyal customers, and we really would appreciate any sort of response from them about what they are doing about all of these issues.
Chuck
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You absolutely right Steve, my precious post was purely frustration based, and goes against the “spirit of the Cow” please take a moment to reply to my next post which more constructively describes my Vegas frustrations.
Chuck
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Thanks for the suggestion Eric. At this point I am really just creating a list of names to research during NAB. I will certainly check into Playbox.
And I completely understand being jaded, I think we all are to some extent in this business!
Chuck
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Bob is right that Mac is the way to go, but the client has a PC based facility so if that’s the only option, so be it, just another thing I have to talk them in to.
As far as budget goes, we’re not in a position to buy a “real” automation system from Harris or Avid that the typical television station would use, but I also don’t expect a $19.95 shareware solution. In short, I can spend as much I need to get the project done right.
If I need to buy external hardware I would, but I already have several powerful computers with Blackmagic cards, as well as a raid, so if I could find a software solution that would be the best option.
Thanks,
Chuck
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Thanks Bob, all of these software solutions seem to be MAC based, I was hoping for a PC solution, but going MAC will probably be better in the long run…
Chuck
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Wow Mark, I had never thought about going in that direction, but you may be on to something…thanks so much.
CHuck
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I am also using a Ki Pro with Vegas, and I feel your pain about Vegas 9, trust me Vegas 10 isn’t really much better. What method are you using to bring in the Ki Pro clips? I have been using Macdrive to access the files on the hard drive and transfer them. What are the settings of those files?
I will have to check, but I think my Ki Pro is set for the “default” 720p settings. I believe I was able to use these files on version 9, but as I am now using version 10 so I can only verify that it does in fact work with the current version.
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Buy Mitch’s book, it will answer ALL of your questions.
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/jacobson_mitch/multicamera_madness.php
Chuck