Chris Harlan
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[Lance Moody] “Do lists of new features for FCPX appear in the Premiere forum?
“Why would they? You do understand that this is a debate forum about which NLE to choose, and not an FCP X forum, proper–right?
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “seriously – fair play to FCPX – its… like the little engine that could.”
Oh, no. Aindreas is being a very naughty engine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaHAulQobBI
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Hey, man, I’m not saying do it. That would NOT be my advice. From where I sit, there are far too many better alternatives. But if you gave me the choice of cutting a feature on X or FCP 2/3beta (remember that, at the time, there is no Cinema Tools, and program still lacks several basic list functions, which Apple had to write for them, and, no, no control surfaces, and comparatively weak hardware with very little available in the way of i/o), I’d choose X. Well, and ProTools.
It’s hard to remember, but a lot has changed.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “Chris,
Easier in what way?
Franz.
“I don’t have any links at hand, but from what I’ve read it was quite a troubled, arduous process that required a lot of intervention and, generally, invention. And, this was for an offline cut. There has just been so much development over the last decade, that we tend to forget how far we’ve come. Sure, you have to be inventive, but I don’t think the challenges are quite as great as they once were. For me the question is, would I really want to?
In another post today about a potential “Cold Mountain Moment,” Tim pithily replied:
If by Cold Mountain Moment you mean “the film with a hugely impractical workflow requiring the massive efforts of an international team, a workflow so bizarrely complicated that it took an entire book to explain how they crawled over the software’s glaring shortcomings,” then, well, we’ll have to wait and see. LOL
I think that about captures it.
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[tony west] “No, it’s not really about the type of movies they make.
It’s more about the level of production value and budget.
They do Top end films
Many have questioned if X could be used on that level.
That question should be answered by those two.
Unless……….they are seen by some as some what second level. If that is the case…..why is that?
“First, I don’t think the question is, anymore, CAN X do something; I think it is now, do you WANT to use X to do something. For the record, I have absolutely no doubt that it would be far easier to do a film the size of Cold Mountain on the current version of X, then it was at the time it was cut on FCP. Second, it is a matter of proximity–for me, at least–and not second level or second tier work. I work in LA. The Coen Bros. are much closer to my ecosystem than anyone in the Hong Kong film world, and the choices that they make may have some more immediate effect on my own work. If Warner Bros. announced tomorrow that they were going all X, I would be too. Immediately. Without question, I would drop everything and would be running X tutorials like mad. I work in an environment where I have freedom to choose much of what I want, but also have to pay serious heed to what others are doing. There is a bit of a flock or herd element to all of this.
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[David Lawrence] “Look what I found!
Joy!!! :)”
ROCK AND ROLL
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[Marcus Moore] “With Adobe just announcing CS7 improvements (which keep in mind won’t be released until the fall)”
Where are you getting info on a release date or window from?
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[Charlie Austin] “I do think that there is a not so subtle undertone of condescension from some of the voices in these new “Premiere Pro or Not: the Foregone Conclusion” threads”
Undertones of condescension? No, it’s pure raucous gloating. Don’t mess with the honey badger. Smiley emoticon goes here.
But, that’s today. Yesterday was all about how X had reached its tipping point. Tomorrow is about how Avid… Well, actually nobody is going to say anything about Avid tomorrow (other than Craig detailing another lawsuit) and yet, weirdly, its the only one of these NLEs I’m going to get certification on. Go figure.
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[tony west] “[Chris Harlan] “Changes what?”
The amount of respect they get”
I’m not a kung fu movie fan, so I’m not particularly drawn to their movies, but I certainly don’t disrespect them.
Does this have something to do with the “Cold Mountain moment” meme? Whoa–look at the Coen Bros. using Pr, but nobody’s all who-ha about X and these guys? I think the whole “Cold Mountain” thing as a mark of “software on the rise to some sort of heavenly dominance” is a little over-done. As Tim beautifully pointed out in another recent post, things have changed greatly since Cold Mountain clawed its way into existence.
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[tony west] “OK, but you posted their work and a link to what they had to say on Apple’s site now let’s see if it changes.
“Changes what?