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  • Now, I’ve only been cutting promos with it, but the ProRes experience has been terrific in it for me.

  • [Bill Davis] “[Kevin Monahan] “My editor just shook her head and said, “That’s not just any dime, that’s a lucky dime!”

    Classic.”

    In the movie version, the waitress then sidles up and stage whispers “Quiet – not so loud or everybody else will want dime in their soup too!

    ; )

    Well, maybe not the movies, but certainly at Fawlty Towers:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maoPS03C9nw

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  • Chris Harlan

    May 10, 2013 at 10:28 pm in reply to: Adobe Creative Cloud Terms of Use

    Now, that’s what I’m sayin’.

    You just second-acted, here, man. You are now Jeremy “Tarantino” Garchow.

  • Chris Harlan

    May 10, 2013 at 10:05 pm in reply to: Adobe Creative Cloud Terms of Use

    I don’t know, dude. I think you are now the GTFO guy.

  • Okay, Walter. I’m going to step out on this ledge with you.

    If I look with rose-colored glasses, and disarm my defense mechanisms, it occurs to me that when tools have properly matured, we may actually want to discourage further rapid change to them–change for change’s sake–and only have them finessed, varied, and perfected, with occasional bursts of growth. In the traditional model, change drives the purchase cycles, and in immature products, this can be terrific. Improvements drive sales. But, at a certain point of maturity, it becomes change simply to drive sales. Fashion begins to replace functionality, and whole, useful structures can be tossed away–maybe have to be tossed away–to support sales. Yes. Sometimes those new structures can truly be useful, or better, but they can also be simply different, and worse.

    So, what about this rent or tithe model? Could it actually be worth paying people to oversee a giant, complicated tool farm–to keep it healthy and clean, move it forward, polish the links and lenses, and help us easily navigate its labyrinthian mass of interconnected programs. Could this become a giant public tool, a worldwide art machine–with a library, supply rooms, research centers, and technicians permanently onsite responding to requests and constantly adding things bit by bit? Maybe rental is the wrong word. Maybe it really is membership. And, maybe it is truly worthwhile paying for a membership in something like that.
    The more I think about it, the more I think it really could be. When I look at it that way, I even get excited about it. Yes, there are pitfalls and potential ugliness, but I’m going to think along these lines for awhile, and see where that takes me.

  • Chris Harlan

    May 10, 2013 at 7:59 am in reply to: Adobe Creative Cloud Terms of Use

    [David Lawrence] “That’s when I bristle at the suggestion if I don’t like Adobe’s new licensing model, I should GTFO. Sorry, but no. That’s a defeatist attitude. I want something better.

    I think making noise is worthwhile if you feel moved to do so. So, I definitely not in the GTFO crowd. The thing is, I do see a point to the managed-rental model, though I don’t know yet the degree to which I agree with it. So, much thinking must ensue.

  • [Walter Soyka] “Yet I keep trying. Maybe I am crazy.”

    Hey, I’m pretty much with you, though I do feel the subconscious pull the other way, as well. I think the time for what you want to talk about isn’t quite here yet. This is one of those moments where people’s survival instincts are kicking in–the reaction is almost physical–and you’ve got to let folks stand down a bit before going where you want to go.

  • Chris Harlan

    May 9, 2013 at 6:27 pm in reply to: New Adobe Creative Cloud Debate Forum

    [Tim Wilson] “Q: Nuh-uh. A: Yuh-huh”

    Now THAT is a name for a forum!

    [Tim Wilson] “Both because I’m a lazy bastard and because it works.

    Now, if only Adobe could be this forthright, we could get past all of this.

  • Chris Harlan

    May 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm in reply to: New Adobe Creative Cloud Debate Forum

    [Jeremy Garchow] “What seems to be lost os that there is actual improved software on the other side of the CC release.

    It just doesn’t seem to matter.

    Yeah, its sort of sucked the discussion away from the tools. Maybe we can get back to those next week.

  • Chris Harlan

    May 9, 2013 at 4:51 pm in reply to: New Adobe Creative Cloud Debate Forum

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Mathieu Ghekiere] “I would keep all discussion here.”

    Going through some of the posts in the other debate forum, it has turned personal pretty quickly.

    I’m not sure I can handle it all again. This forum is, mostly, a pleasant place to be.

    If history is any indication, it will get worse before it gets better.

    Yes, I think that exists right now as a drainage system to channel the rage so that regular support discussions can continue on the Adobe forums. And maybe on this forum, too. I agree with you. I think we should discuss it because it is a significant industry move, but the last two days of ROID RAGE is about all I can take. The changes Apple made with X opened up so much discussion about the way forward, that something was able to flower from it. I don’t think thats going to be the case with this particular CC issue.

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