New Adobe Creative Cloud Debate Forum

[Frank Gothmann]

Another “or not”? Wow, this is getting really fun and looney now.
Can we please have Avid, Grassvaley and Sony f**k-up, too, now so we can get all this behind us, close shops and start a soup kitchen?

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[Mark Dobson]

With the CC debate moving out it will get a bit quiet here . . . .

[Franz Bieberkopf]

With all due respect,

I think the COW is missing the mark if they think discussion in here is about any one product, and each product should be discussed in its own forum.

Franz.

[Mark Dobson]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “I think the COW is missing the mark if they think discussion in here is about any one product, and each product should be discussed in its own forum.”

Have to agree with that.

If all CC discussion is shifting to it’s own forum does that not take the ‘or Not’ away from FCPX or Not: The Debate”

Undoubtably there’s a lot of hot air about the new subscription model – but faced with the unbending new Adobe business model that will surely die down over time.

The main debate on this forum has been between making the choice of Premiere Pro and FCPX , comparing the advantages of both systems, sure there is mention of Avid and other NLEs, but it’s mainly been Premiere Pro and FCPX.

It’s been a very educational debate so it will be a shame to see it dissipate.

[Jeremy Garchow]

What I think was happening is that the normal Pr forum was turning in to a slam fest of sorts, similar but not equal to what happened with FCP.

I think it’s good to draw the heat out of the “support” forum so that users who need help don’t get buried in the quagmire.

In think this situation will blow over much faster than the fcpx debacle becuase there’s improved software coming in the CC release instead of an entire sea change of methodology.

I understand people’s concerns about paying a yearly (or monthly) fee, but if the product is good enough, I would think people might want to pay for it, and that’s what remains to be seen. Is CC good enough to warrant the new cost structure?

[Tim Vaughan]

I’m gonna start a debate about whether or not I want to post in the current forum or in the new creative cloud or not: the debate. This will probably require another bookmark in my bookmark manager, and I’m just not sure I’m ready to commit to that… 🙂

Tim
Apple XRAID, XServe, 2008 2×3 GHz Quad-Core MacPro, Macbook Pro, XSAN, FCP Studio (7), AVID Media Composer, Adobe Production Premium, Maxon Cinema 4d, AJA Kona 3, Flanders Scientific Monitors, Panasonic HPX250’s, Kessler Crane, Glidecam…..
Beer fridge fully loaded.

[Mark Suszko]

by way of comment,

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[Steve Connor]

[Mark Dobson] “If all CC discussion is shifting to it’s own forum does that not take the ‘or Not’ away from FCPX or Not: The Debate””

Not at all, none of the recent Cloud discussion has been relevant to FCPX at all. It may be relevant to the NLE choices you have out there, but that’s why there’s separate forums for all the NLEs.

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[Craig Seeman]

A long while back I thought it would be good to make this forum about industry trends which is really what it’s become. Consider how the CC debate ignited here even though it may have been happening in the Premiere forum as well.

Of course as a forum manager it’s probably much more attractive to views to have a proper place that people scouring the web for discussion, can find.

Perhaps the COW should consider a parent child forum relationship. Industry Debate with sub forums on FCPX/Apple, CS/CC/Adobe, Avid, might be good subs. Cross product comparisons could be flagged (hmm, time for the COW to consider something like FCPX Smart Collections).

[Mathieu Ghekiere]

I would keep all discussion here.

After Apple changed the post-production world with FCPX for a big part, we had 2 forums:
FCPX techniques, just a technical forum for people who work with FCX, and this forum which became a bit of a loose discussion board about NLE’s. Avid. Premiere. Apple. The Industry.

Very interesting discussions.

A shame to break it up to seperate boards.