Chris Harlan
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[Oliver Peters] “CMX 3600 or GVG lists”
Yes. I can’t remember the last time I needed a Sony list. GVG is my most common delivery spec.
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[Bill Davis] “In the modern era, the most successful digital video revolutions have been those that percolated “bottom up” rather than dripping “top down.””
That’s probably true, Bill. What you might want to consider, however, is the degree to which FCP X is actually from “the top down,” no matter how hard the marketing department and unrelated boosters tout its revolutionary qualities. About the only thing “bottom up” is the way it works with dslrs; everything else is dictated down. Not being able to mix well just so you don’t have clip collisions ain’t no revolution. In fact, it is the kind of bureaucratic thinking that tends to foster them.
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[Bill Davis] “What the heck does anyone do if yesterday’s “large post house” becomes the hardware in someone’s briefcase – and the “staff” is now a bunch of connected people on laptops living anyplace they find pretty or interesting or just plain cheap?
“Join them, or even better, be there first.
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Also, compliance issues and delivery requirements. Sometimes legal departments need a paper record of footage used. And, many networks and studios require an .edl as part of their full delivery package, so that they can resuscitate elements of your project from scratch across platforms.
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And, hey, let’s not forget that support for external monitoring that should be coming any day now.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “To move a layer stack, would you rather manage 15 layers, or drag one clip and all that comes with it to achieve the same edit? as you read it, which sounds “easier”? How about faster? Have you actually tried to do this in FCPx?
“I don’t have to “manage.” I just have to lasso, cut and paste or drag and drop. But, I agree. Dragging a single clip sounds easier. The act itself is probably faster. Yes, I have tried it. I have given the whole paradigm a great deal of thought. NO, I don’t like it. NOT when it comes at the expense of tracks, which are far more useful to me in a whole variety of ways than any little boost I might get from the magnetic timeline. You may like the trade-off; I don’t have to.
[Jeremy Garchow] “That’s all I’m trying to say, and say this to folks who might be giving FCPx a chance, or want to learn more. My last reply was more to the general population, not just to you.”
I do get that. In many respects, my replies are for similar reasons. I want people to understand the pitfalls of the software. I don’t want producers expecting me to achieve results on FCP X that are similar to what can be done on FCS/Avid/Premiere/Edius/Vegas, etc., when those results cannot be achieved. I also want them to be aware that there is a fair amount of unhappiness in the editorial community with the product.
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Jeremy, it amazes me the degree to which we don’t understand each other. I DO understand that that is how you would work in FCP X. I DO understand that the actual move itself is potentially easier than in FCS. The point I am making is that–from my POV–getting rid of tracks to make that happen with just a little bit more ease is a ridiculous tradeoff. If it is not to you, great, more power to you. I really don’t want to argue about this stuff any more. I don’t find it useful. I think tracks are important. Actually, after contemplating, FCP X for several months I would say I’ve come to the conclusion that tracks are fundamental and essential. Not having them, imho, is totally bogus. I know you disagree.
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I think I’m finally done.
In FCS, all I need to do to move even the most complicated composite of audio and video–I mean 15 layers that belong together–is to hit ctrl V at my in and out points and then lasso the whole mess. I can drag and drop or cut and paste. It is just so simple. All of this crazy trackless-ness to avoid clip collision is insane.
David, thanks for all your insightful comments. You’ve really helped me see that I’m not walking away from something useful because of prejudice. I wish the FCP Xers well. At the end of the day, after years of devotion to FCP, I just have finally–fully–come to the conclusion that I don’t want to use this thing. I guess that might change. I’ll check back from time to time, but the underpinnings–for my usage–are such a bag of hurt that I just don’t see any value. Pity. I really liked FCP.
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Here’s Chrysler’s version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4
The tech diagnostic at the end is a hoot as well!
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“Apple’s Edsel” was my comment in the App Store after two days of playing with FCP X. Oddly, it never seemed to achieve actual comment status. Never allowed? Deleted? I have no idea.