FCP-X: Thinking Differently?

[Paul Jay]

Start here:

Final Cut Pro X: A Look From Past to Present to Future (Complete Footage)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwF9J1_aYzI&feature=player_embedded

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[Don Scioli]

I agree. Who the hell does Apple think it is to change the rules in the middle of the game and handicap the film/video community who have spent over 10 years mastering a now flawless piece of editing software like FCP7.

And changing the rules and terminology on non-linear and linear editing. So does that mean that Robert Wise who edited CITIZEN KANE, Walter Murch who edited THE GODFATHERS and James Cameron who edited TITANIC and AVITAR were wrong in their thinking and terminology… do Apple’s software engineers know more than these guys.

Give me a break. I tried using FCPX and it is buggy, crashes every time I try and put on a title, visually incomprehensible, and a mess. It is similar to all the consumer type apps I used throughout the years which instead of making it easier to perform a task, handcuffed you with limitations until you upgraded to a pro app.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

he is… very pro the software tho.. – don’t get me wrong: I think professionals the likes of him are right to push back whatnot – and he is honest and bullish in his appreciation for the software, but he glides over an awful lot of things – small example – when he skims past the quicktime and audio export options he says “exactly the same” …well, nothing could be further from the truth really.
Mind you that is probably a very temporary issue. It is kind of fun seeing someone go all churchill defending it tho.

http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Andrew Richards]

[Don Scioli] “And changing the rules and terminology on non-linear and linear editing. So does that mean that Robert Wise who edited CITIZEN KANE, Walter Murch who edited THE GODFATHERS and James Cameron who edited TITANIC and AVITAR were wrong in their thinking and terminology… do Apple’s software engineers know more than these guys.”

Please humor me and expand on this. Which editing rules and terminology that is common to the editing of those four films (which were produced many decades apart from each other) have Apple’s software engineers changed?

[Don Scioli] “Who the hell does Apple think it is to change the rules in the middle of the game and handicap the film/video community who have spent over 10 years mastering a now flawless piece of editing software like FCP7. “

Flawless? Really?

Best,
Andy

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Andrew Richards] “Which editing rules and terminology that is common to the editing of those four films (which were produced many decades apart from each other) have Apple’s software engineers changed?”

well this post from a commercials editor guy:

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/296/15880?wfid=335&wpid=12772

and david lawrence’s reply…

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/296/15887?wfid=335&wpid=12772

…pretty much sums it up for me – I’ve done timelines like that – they are the timelines apple derided in the presentation. But that is a professional timeline, I can read that very easily, so can you. If I walked up to that timeline and started receiving updated assets, I’d be pretty much fine. It looks complicated, but it’s not. Or well.. not to a, god forgive me for saying it.. professional anyway. Its an open, absolute timeline. There is no primary storyline, or secondary storyline, or auditions rippling things up and down – its the timeline. That’s what existed before. That what every editor up to Murch and beyond had. An absolute, open multitrack timeline you placed elements into.

Apple have seen fit to replace all that with the primary storyline, secondary storyline, connected clips malarky. look at that timeline the guy posted, it’s powerful, malleable, reads like a sheet of music – but there is, in no way, a primary storyline there. Many work usage situations will produce something that is sympathetic to primary, secondary, connected metaphors – but many will not – the beauty of an open, multitrack absolute timeline is that it can encompass all approaches.

nipping into italics for a minute:

No wonder Apple can’t get FCP7 timelines into FCPX – their reduced, simplified editing paradigm cannot conceive of, or allow, a wide, wide range of professional open editing timeline practises.

that’s what we’ve lost.

http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Mark Bein]

[Don Scioli] “So does that mean that Robert Wise who edited CITIZEN KANE”

Citizen Kane could have been cut on Imovie.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

I’m going to tell Robert Wise you said that, and he is going to get up out of his grave and find out where you live.

http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Timothy Auld]

Citizen Kane? Really? Well, Anything’s possible I guess. It could’ve been written on MS word. But what, exactly, is your point?

bigpine

[David Roth weiss]

[Mark Bein] “Citizen Kane could have been cut on Imovie.”

What a relief, a project that could actually be imported into FCP X.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.com

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[Daniel Frome]

haha, zing.