Chris Harlan
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[Tim Wilson] “The only thing that I personally assess as noise here is pointedly personal stuff, but even that is being dealt with far better than this time last year. A post or two and move on, rather than consuming whole threads…or whole days….
“So that means that my suggestion for the new forum name of “50 Romantic Things You Can Do To Your Opponent’s Skull” is just completely out of the running?
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[Bill Davis] “Thats good for the board since I increasingly think that the debate on FCP-X functions and features is the “signal” here – and the expressions of anger or hurt about the program, while surely entertaining for the lurkers – is not much more than “noise” at this point.
“Yeah, but then Tim is going to stop paying us the big bucks.
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Apple was dropping well-placed hints about Lightpeak a year before the Thunderbolt release. Just as they are now with the TV. I know you don’t believe that’s necessarily happening, but I do. And, I believe some of the leaks are actually generated by Apple, just as I believe that some of the Lightpeak buildup was semi-coordinated. And yes the Post PC talk was about where Apple thinks we ALL are. But by making the statement, I think they were definitely making a statement of their general intentions.
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Also, aren’t most of the layoffs coming to the printer sector? Given the general move away from printing, that makes some sense.
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[Craig Seeman] “And all three have announced Thunderbolt support as well. I think they will continue to do well. Those that need to work in a cross platform environment will be able to maximize their investment (or be willing to make an investment) in Thunderbolt peripherals.
“Hey, Thunderbolt rocks. I’ve been very pleased with it.
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[Andrew Richards] “[Chris Harlan] “They often announce hardware weeks or in some cases months before it is shipping.”
Only if it is an all new product segment, like the iPhone in 2007 and the iPad in 2010. There hasn’t been a paper launch of a new Mac since maybe the original MacBook Air in January, 2008, and that was measured in days, not weeks or months. In recent years new Macs haven’t even had press events. They just show up on Apple’s site and in Apple’s stores. All the new-Macs hubbub comes from without, not from Apple.
“Andy, there was a two week delay with this year’s iPad. And, I agree that with older lines they most often just refresh. But I was responding to “Apple doesn’t announce hardware in advance.” I just don’t think that you can predict those kind of things from Apple. If they want to tell you about Thunderbolt in advance, they will. They’ll talk about its eventual implementation long before it happens. And, they’ll drop saucy hints all over the place about things like Apple TV, for an entire year before its implemented. They just do it on their own terms, and with as little or as much info as suits them. What about the 17,000 well-placed mentions of “post-PC world” in the iPad release talk? I guess that could just be sales blather, but it seems to me that that was making a rather profound announcement about the general future of Apple hardware.
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[Craig Seeman] “Apple doesn’t announce hardware in advance. We may (or may not) know something at WWDC.”
I’m not sure I can agree with that. They often announce hardware weeks or in some cases months before it is shipping.
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I’m not sure what any of this has to do with mobility, but since you took the time to write all this interesting stuff out, I’ll definitely take the time to reply.
[Bill Davis] “When I use X on my laptop – every single edit decision I’ve made previously in my event brewer – no matter which events or projects those were created for – can be instantly available to every single project I choose to create from that point on – with all my pre-edit decisions as to trimming, color correction and key wording intact.
That capability didn’t exist in Legacy that I ever uncovered.
The X approach is infinitely more flexible and clearly superior in my view.”
I can see how this might be useful for some folks, but it would drive me crazy. I would pay not to have that feature. I only want to have open projects that I’m working, and most definitely NOT everything I’ve ever done. If I need to have several projects open at the same time, great, but NOT as a default.
[Bill Davis] “And when you’re out on the road with Legacy, how exactly do you handle Capture Scratch management? I don’t recall a way to have a dozen projects with a dozen capture scratches associated with those projects live simultaneously – the default state of X with multiple Events available along side multiple projects as the default.
“I really have no idea what you mean by “Capture Scratch management.” Its just a folder. You can have plenty of folders open. I’ve been completely tapeless for two years now, and mostly tapeless for the two years before that. I use folders. My projects can get quite large and encompass many, many folders. I can have them all open. I can open folders from other projects. Defaulting to all projects open is a nightmare as far as I’m concerned. It is SO not an advantage. I can see, again, how it could be very useful for some lines of work, but I assure there are others that it is NOT a very good idea for.
[Bill Davis] “I can be editing away on one Project, realize I need footage from another project, or another event, mount a drive, and edit the new material into my timeline in seconds. No launching prior projects, no shut down and re-launching FCP legacy edits. “
Why do you think I can’t do this in FCS? I can mount a drive and import whole folders or individual items without having to launch a project. I can easily preview whatever I’m looking for by using the OS X browser and then just drag the file to a bin. I do a lot of sfx this way. And I can certainly open an additional project or five without having to shut down or relaunch.
[Bill Davis] “In fact, in Legacy I couldn’t even SEE the contents of a timeline when I had another one launched! I could open an exported MOVIE – but that give me NO reference to the original timeline since movies and their parent timelines were always cut off from each other. “
I’m not sure I understand what you are saying here. FCS allows multiple timelines to be open, whereas x does not. This something I miss quite a bit in all other NLEs. Its one of those area where FCS maintains superiority. Perhaps you mean you cannot preview a timeline in a bin. That’s true. And a little scrub device would be nice, but it really isn’t that big a deal to click and see what’s in the timeline. I would take multiple open timelines over some sort of bin preview any day. But, that’s me.
[Bill Davis] ” I remember spending lots to time looking for clips by opening and closing FCP-Legacy projects until I could find the one that had the clip I was looking for if I couldn’t remember the ID tag I’d used and wanted a visual reference.
“Again, OS X provides a pretty decent preview feature these days. And, again–I do not want all my projects open at the same time. I get that this is a viable selling point for you, but it would be a royal PItA for me.
[Bill Davis] “Legacy had no visual reference other than shuffling through bins and scanning thumbnails for the open project ONLY.
Former projets were just “dumb icons” on the desktop. Unless you create and maintain some kind of clip database outside the program, each edit defaulted to a “closed book” state.”
Yeah, its showing it age a little bit. I like the kind of preview features available in Pr 6, which thankfully allows me not to have everything open.
[Bill Davis] “In X, all your prior work can be open and available for visual search with a few clicks – all from within the live app.
“And again, thank God that it is the only NLE that has gone there.
Bill, I found this conversation very interesting because it has really helped me see why you like X so much. I can see how its organization can be very attractive. I can even see why–from your POV–you might think of it as being more mobile, because I see that for you it acts as a work suitcase/filing cabinet, combined with an artist’s pallet. So, I get what you are saying. But, there are a lot of other ways of looking at mobility, and claiming it as the sole property of FCP X is just not something I can agree with.
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Hey, that was classy and inspirational.
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[Marcus Moore] “Tou…ché…?
Wow, compelling debate. Here, let me meet you part way…
Could I see the MacPro going away? Absolutely. But not functional hole that it fills.
“Sorry. I wasn’t trying for compelling debate, because you weren’t debating. You were simply insulting people who, for a variety of reasons, have serious doubts about Apple’s commitment to workstations. I was simply returning the favor. Sometimes “I know you are, but what am I?” is all a comment requires.
If you look around this forum you’ll see that this is a much-discussed topic. There are certainly people who agree with you, and some of them make fairly good arguments. Many of them believe that Apple will release, if not a mini MacPro, then a iMacPro. I’d be happy to think this is the case, but I see a lot of evidence to the contrary, and am not counting on such a thing to happen. From my perspective, Apple has missed far too many moments to introduce a new MacPro, and has made far too many statements about being a post-PC company for anyone to feel secure that they plan to continue with any kind of workstation. Add to that that workstations are an utterly insignificant part of their revenue, and that the company has aggressively touted a form of cloud computing that breaks their traditional echo system, I’m really not expecting Apple to come out with any kind of heavy hitter. As I’ve said in the past, I’d be delighted to be wrong, but as each opportunity to update their current line of heavy hitters passes by without remark, my doubt grows. Frankly, as inconvenient as it might be for me personally, I think it is probably a better choice for them not to. So, that’s what I’m smoking.