Chris Harlan
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[Marcus Moore] “I’m not sure what anyone is smoking who thinks high end Macs are going away.”
Probably nothing near as good as whatever it is you are smoking.
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[Bill Davis] “But if you don’t understand the qualitative difference between X and Legacy as a mobile editing platform, then you’re NEVER going to get this point.
“And, maybe there is no point there. No, wait. Not maybe. There is no point there.
[Bill Davis] “Legacy on a laptop, cut off from the “home base” assets of network and storage was an exercise in diminished capacity. X on a laptop is EXACTLY the same as X on a desktop. It’s a seamless experience.
“Mumbo jumbo. I can carry around four TBs or more and often do. 2 TBs easily accommodates a full season of an American TV drama. The home base easily comes with you if you want it. There is nothing about mobility that X has over FCS. Nothing. Nada. If FCS experiences any diminished capacity on a laptop, it is only diminished to the level of X.
[Bill Davis] “If you haven’t used X enough to experience that, then please don’t keep coming back to the “mobile editing was “possible” in Legacy.”
“Stop hiding behind “If you haven’t been there… …you just can’t understand.” The same argument can be made about Heroin. Give me something concrete. I bet you can’t find it.
[Bill Davis] “It’s also possible to drag race with a Volkswagen. But few do that seriously.”
I so agree. Which is why I’m impressed with your tenacity in continuing to try it.
[Bill Davis] “It’s a very, poor tool for that purpose, while X is an absolutely superb tool for mobile editing – perhaps the finest out there from what I’ve both experienced and heard.
“That is ridiculous. I’ve been comfortably editing ProResHQ @1080 on a Macbook Pro for years now. It isn’t sloggy. It isn’t slow. To say that it is a “very poor tool” is an assertion that I can personally and very vehemently deny. So give me a couple of real life examples of why one is a poor tool and the other is superb.
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[Michael Gissing] “Personally I think many issues have been addressed but in a way that still makes people reluctant to put trust in Apple for editing software and hardware.”
The absolute silence about workstations doesn’t help X out either.
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[Michael Gissing] “For an editor working in isolation this may be true. For editors who are part of larger post workflows that require planning and collaborations over longer periods, real money can be wasted by short attention span planning around cool products.
I know you love the freedom to roam and edit paradigm Bill but for many this is still a question of how to get the feisty colt into the barn and harnessed to a team.”
And, I’v been roaming with FCS for the last five years. I’ve taken my work on all manner of vacation, and on afternoon getaways. Its not like X is somehow mobile and other NLEs are not. That’a a fallacy.
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[Andrew Kimery] ” I know the learning curve will be higher than picking up PPro, for example, but if it provides me w/a much better way of doing what I need to do then I’m down. I’m not interested in just doing things differently, but I am interested in doing things better.”
Yup. That’s where my head is at.
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[Steve Connor] “[Shane Ross] “I gave it a spin for a week, so I did more than kick tires. ”
In FCPX world using it for a week is actually just kicking the tyres”
I disagree, Steve. Using it for a week is taking it for a test drive, reading all the brochures, reading the reviews from consumer reports to Motor Trends. In short, it gives you plenty of time to figure out the things you may or may not like. You just shouldn’t have to master something to decide if you like it or not.
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I agree with much of what you say there, Bill, though I’m not quite as confident that Apple will carry through. I don’t necessarily believe that they won’t, but I’d certainly like to see a little more reassurance that they will. My gut tells me that it just doesn’t matter to them that much anymore, but I’d happily be wrong.
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I second all you say here, Walter. I was not attracted to FCP by price but by its versatility. At its height, it could do so many things that Media Composer could not, especially before MC3. I feel sad that, even with its passing, I still have this argument with many of the Avid-only folk. It really wasn’t about the cheap seats, y’all.
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[Walter Soyka] “I think one thing that hasn’t changed since last June is that a lot of people are still making up their minds about FCPX without really using it. There’s really a lot there to like, but it’s not for everyone.”
That’s certainly true, but I don’t blame people for that. Its not people’s responsibility to work deep into a product that goes against there basic assumptions of how a product should work. I’ve hung around and have been able to learn a lot of the good things about X, but thats because I’m interested in the dynamics of such things. Had I not been, I would have been gone with nothing more than the locked-down interface and lack of tracks.
[Walter Soyka] “If Apple had launched with 10.0.3 or 10.0.4, we might all be having a different conversation.”
That is also quite true. If it had launched at 10.04 the question would be about “Do I want to use it?” and not “Is it true that its impossible for me to use?” I might not like Roles, for instance, but they do provide a viable option to tracks. X has to live down a whole half year of people screaming “I can’t even use it if I wanted to! How am I supposed to make stems!”, and “I can’t even monitor the dang thing.”
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My perception has certainly changed. The big question about it has gone from “Is it, or will it, ever be usable for the work I generally engage in?” to “Do I, or will I, ever want to use it?”
So now its much more about style and approach then it is about actual viability. The answer for me, currently, is that it offers me–personally–very little of value, and that its detriments far outweigh anything of value it does have. Much of that is taste, however, and I can easily imagine it being of great value to others. Over the next year, its going to be much more about taste, and also about what Apple will do about computers in general. Their silence on the Mac Pros has not helped them with FCP X at all, and one sizable selling point for both Adobe and Avid is that they have a platform exit strategy.
Another element is that Adobe has done an amazing job with Premiere in making it extremely accessible to FCP 7 editors. I felt at home after playing around with it for half an hour. It also has a lot of what I like about Avid. It’s something that I can just start using, and then spend a few free hours, here and there, over the next few months on Lynda picking up on the hidden stuff. That’s very enticing.