[Charlie Austin]

[Bill Davis] “the risk is that we’ll come away with a poorer understanding of the forces that shape the world, not necessarily a better one.
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I agree, but fighting any battles on anonymous internet forums is pointless. Mac vs. PC redux. IMO of course. 🙂

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[Charlie Austin]

I’m on a phone now, so forgive the vagueness… It’s the way clips are handled/represented that I’ve been messing with lately… Kinda crazy what you can do really. They’re like Russian dolls. Containers within containers. I suppose all media can be viewed as such in any NLE, but in x you can open up the containers in the UI and do some very interesting stuff. I think that’s a much bigger deal than people may be are aware of. Of course, I could be totally wrong 🙂

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[Charlie Austin]

[Michael Gissing] “we could come up with a collision proof power system with tracks & bus based processing that would knock editors socks off. X is still a long way from getting the concept right.”

If all you see as unique about the FCP X timeline is that it has no tracks and things don’t bump into each other I would suggest you’re kind of missing some things. I do, however, agree that some sort of Roles based bussing/mixing functionality would be welcome. At the very least the ability to throw some signal processing plugins onto an Audio Role would be quite useful.

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[Charlie Austin]

[Darren Roark] “It’s actually my favorite part of working with FCP X since getting used to it especially on larger projects.”

Me too. And once you get used to it, it’s kind of annoying when you don’t have it. For some silly reason, I’m often working on different spots for the same job in FCP X and Pr simultaneously. I’m the kind of nerd that likes to (has to) know the apps I’m in upside-down and backwards, so I’m proficient in either one. Guess which one I swear at the most? Hint: it’s the one with the most trimming tools and modes…

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[Charlie Austin]

[David Lawrence] “layering scenarios ala Fairlight. Lots of possibilities that improve on FCPX.
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I wonder if Apple is giving any thought to possibilities that improve on FCP X… Nah, that would be silly right? 😉

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[Charlie Austin]

[David Lawrence] “The problem isn’t tracks, it’s limited imagination. ;)”

To me, the lack of tracks is hardly the most unique feature of the FCP X timeline/media representation. People who think that’s the big difference between X and MC/Pr etc aren’t using their imagination. 😉

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[Charlie Austin]

[John Rofrano] “The problem is the tracks. Get rid of the tracks… get rid of the problem. “

Yep. Look, I’m sure Adobe or Avid could rewrite their NLE’s to function in a trackless manner. They obviously have very talented people working on these apps. But they won’t. Look what happened when Apple did it. It took 3 or 4 years to get to a point where their new NLE was seen as actually useable for “pro’s”. Some of that was perception but honestly, for the first year or so it really wasn’t useable at the “high end”.

For Apple, no biggie, eat the losses and press on. Kill the old version (though it still works) and force users to make a choice, even if that choice is another NLE. For other companies? I don’t see how they could do that and stay viable. Especially Avid. And I don’t think they really feel a need. Some people like their tracks and patching and mixers and panels and bins.

And finally, a lot of FCP X functionality is due to frameworks etc in the OS. Like, a huge chunk of it. How’s that gonna work for a cross-platform application? It won’t.

So I’m sure we’ll see all vendors “borrow” ideas from each other. BMD has “borrowed” more from X than anyone else, but it’s still essentially the same as any tracked NLE. Just prettier. 🙂 FCP X is 4 years into an admitted 10 year dev plan. I don’t think we’ve seen anything yet.

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[Charlie Austin]

[Bill Davis] “The Focus discussions on other boards are getting really great.”

If by “great” you mean “boring” then yes, they are. I think having the “discussions” here or other places where the people involved are not anonymous is useful and can be enlightening for both sides if argued intelligently. On anonymous rumor forums? Complete waste of time IMO…

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[Charlie Austin]

[Steve Connor] “I imagine that Adobe are looking hard at FCPX to see how they can try and match some of the features that it has.”

A bunch of those features are patented, so it’s not likely anyone will be able to do the exact same things. I’m sure we’ll see more stuff like Skimming vs. Hover Scrub, Clever Bins vs Smart Collections etc… There’s a whole lot more going on in the X UI than just clips moving out of each others way though.

https://alex4d.com/notes/item/apple-magnetic-timeline-fcpx-patent

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[Charlie Austin]

[David Cherniack] “Sorry, no. It’s rather a big subject and I really don’t have the time being busy as I am installing all the variety of Windows software I use on a daily basis on a brand new X99 chipset screamer.”

lol. OK then… 🙂

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