Bob Zelin
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Hi
Command Soft FibreJet is pretty much obsolete at this time. If you still have a Fibre channel infrastructure, and want a software only solution, your choices are Tiger Technology Tiger Share, or Apple XSAN. Support and ease of use of Tiger Share will be much easier than dealing with XSAN which is administrative intensive.With that said, most people today have switched to more modern solutions. There are countless shared storage solutions on the market, but most – even the cheap ones – require the purchase of new hardware. There are lots of complete solutions, most that use 10G ethernet, that start at under $10,000, and do not require complex administration like XSAN.
I fully understand that your company may want to continue with your existing hardware and QLogic switch.
Bob Zelin
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your RAID array, from any manufacturer has nothing to do with your PC. The RAID information is held on the drives of the array. You can simply take another PC, load the G-Tech driver for the card (either Highpoint or ATTO), and your RAID array will appear. All your data is still there. You just make sure you load the correct driver for the corresponding card that is being used as your disk drive host adaptor for the G-Tech.
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simple answer –
Cat 6 is good for the full bandwidth of 10Gbase-T up to 55 meters.
To go beyond 55 meters, you need Cat 6A
Cat 7 shielded is not in the 10Gbase-T specification.end of story.
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that is correct –
10.11.6 does not fix the SMB network connection issue.
You have to manually disable SMB Signing, to get the speeds to return to normal.
What system are you running John ?Bob Zelin
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Hi Tyler –
since you invoked my name, I will spew out my rage towards your post. There are lots of ways to do shared storage today. Perhaps you already own all the components to make this happen. What you don’t have (which is why you say in your subject line “why is this so difficult”) is the knowledge of how to accomplish this.So while editing, and graphics, and audio mixing, and 3D modeling is “easy” for you, it’s not easy for your clients. And this is why they PAY YOU MONEY. With that said, shared storage is not difficult for me, and others like me, and that is why someone like you must PAY ME MONEY (or pay some other schmo who knows how to do this). I fully understand your question. “Why can’t I just plug in a bunch of Mac’s with thunderbolt ports to a Mac Pro Cylinder with 6 thunderbolt ports, and have instant shared storage”. Because Thunderbolt networking does not work. Apple has no idea of how to do this – Intel does (the team in Tel Aviv), and it is not a priority for them. So even Thunderbolt networking, in it’s present form, still requires knowledge of networking, and setting up static IP addresses, to get it to work. But of course, you want it to be “plug and play” – just like plugging in a Thunderbolt drive, and without doing anything, BAM – it mounts on the desktop and you go to work. Well, networking is not like that. It’s easier than ever, but it’s not like that.
There are certainly companies that have a working Thunderbolt Solution (Accusys), where you can plug up to 3 computers directly into their box – but you still need to run Tiger Share or Apple XSAN, and both of these require knowledge, in addition to the $6000 starting price, plus the price of the SATA drives that go into the Accusys. So, too expensive for you, right ?
And yes, there is the incredibly wonderful QNAP. It’s dirt cheap (you do not need the model that you listed, there are cheaper ones that work wonderfully), and works perfectly. Models like the 871T even have six Ethernet ports on the back – four 1G and two 10G – so if you don’t want to spend the money on a Netgear switch, you can avoid this too.
But the one thing you need to setup the QNAP, or a Mac Server, or an AVID ISIS or Nexis, or Terrablock, or EditShare, or DDP, or GB Labs or Apace, or Synology – is the KNOWLEGE of how to do this.How did I learn how to do this ? The same way you learned FCP, or Adobe Premiere, or Adobe After Effects, or Cinema 4D or the wonderful and free Davinci Resolve 12.5 with FREE editing software. I sat there and SUFFERED THRU IT, and figured it out (it’s not that hard). That’s how I learn all these things, and that is probably how YOU learn all these things.
But I assume that you are busy shooting, editing, doing graphics, soliciting new clients, billing your clients, trying to collect your money, etc. to have the TIME to figure this stuff out. So, in the same way that you hire a plumber to fix your running toilet, or you hire a mechanic to repair your auto transmission, you hire someone like ME to set this up for you. And in the process, you LEARN how to do it, so you can then later say “boy, that was not hard at all, I can’t believe I had to pay that idiot one penny for this – I could have spend a few days at this (knowing what you have learned) and figured this stuff out myself” !!!!!The Mac Mini makes for a very poor server for 4K applications, but it does work well for 3 – 4 clients. Using a full Mac Pro
with the 8 bay RAID array, and switch, and drives, and 10G adaptors is a much more robust solution. And of course, most of the systems I have done use antique Mac Pro “cheese graters” which also work wonderfully.But you mentioned the QNAP. The TVS-871T is a wonderful product, and you get amazing fast performance for an incredibly low price. Even with no switch, you still must purchase EIGHT SATA drives, and when you multiply the price of a drive x 8 (plus a spare drive), you have just spend a few thousand dollars, even when dealing with discount companies like Newegg or OWC. And to get 10G speeds, you still need to purchase thunderbolt to Ethernet adaptors from companies like Sonnet or Promise, or ATTO. And so your little price tally sheet keeps going up.
With that said, building a shared storage system today is cheaper than EVER before. And if you would take a crowbar to your wallet, and PAY somone to help you, you will see how cheap and easy it is to do all of this, and then you too will be an expert, and will ultimately say “boy, this was not so difficult at all”.
Perhaps when Thunderbolt 3 comes out with the Mac’s, Tbolt networking will work. At this moment, for video editing, Tbolt networking is completely unsatisfactory for our application.
You know what you need to do next.
Bob Zelin
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you are not going to do shared storage with only 4 or 6 drives.
You need eight spinning disks. So you can use a Mac with a Promise R8, with a 10G interface, or
a QNAP with a 10G interface and 8 drives, or a Synology with a 10G interface and 8 drives. The 10G port goes to a Netgear 10G switch, and now you have a shared storage system.The Sonnet box plugs into a Mac, not the promise R8. You need both the drive array and the 10G adaptor to act as a server on a Mac.
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the drobos won’t work. Want to spend very little money ? Get a QNAP or a Synology with 10G ports.
Forget the Drobo’s.Bob Zelin
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oh no !
Another one – another competitor.
responding to a 2011 post.In Europe, DDP, Tiger Technology, GB Labs all have wonderful solutions for you. And now, Element ?
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simple answer –
two networks – two switches. Everything works.And the Mac Mini is a terrible server for four clients all running 10G speeds. You are sharing one Tbolt buss with your drive array
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because $137 for a Mini Monitor is just too much money to spend, if I don’t really have to.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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