Bob Zelin
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Hi Mark –
you have mentioned 3 excellent companies –
Facilis, Studio Network Solutions, and Small Tree all have excellent solutions. Exactly what do you want to know ? What editing software are you using ?Bob Zelin
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because AVID Media Composer is one of the software programs that you want to use, you are now limited to the SAN or NAS that you want to setup. Again, I urge you to keep that in mind – AVID Media composer will NOT work with a generic system. You need a specific vendor (that includes AVID, EditShare, Facilis, SNS, Small Tree, etc.) that knows exactly how to handle a shared AVID environment. A regular network – even mine – will NOT work with AVID Media Composer.
You have a bunch of classrooms – you put the 10G switch NEAR the classrooms, – for your 100 students, you get two 48 port switches with 10G uplinks, and put them NEAR the class rooms. The only thing you need to run with fiber are the SFP+ from these switches back to the server building. That’s it. Everything else is copper (Cat6 or Cat6A).
Bob Zelin
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Marc –
you are doing this all wrong. I see this is your first post on Creative Cow. You state in your post “we believe that we will use iSCSI unless our SAN vendor recommends something else”. Who on earth is your SAN vendor ? Don’t they have an established client list, where they have done video installations like this ? From your description of your installation (12 10G and 100 1G), this sounds more like a TV station than a school. Plenty of “vendors” are video specific vendors that do this for a living. I have listed them countless times on this very forum, and many of them either advertise right here on Creative Cow, or even have their own forums.
I will tell you this – if you choose a generic networking vendor, that does not have specific background and experience in installing a video shared storage environment, you will wind up with an incredibly expensive failure on your hands.Yes, you use two networks – one for internet, one for shared storage.
But your whole description of running the massive fiber lines is just crazy. You have 12 workstations – you put the switch right there by the workstations, and run an SFP+ back to your server.
And you are never ever going to get 112 clients working on a single 16 bay with 64 TB of storage, not unless everyone is working at super low bandwidth.This is my general suggestion to you. Read Creative Cow. Review some of the past threads on this forum. Find companies that people talk about for video shared storage and CALL THESE COMPANIES. I don’t give a crap if your “SAN Vendor” has a contract with your school system – they are probably incompetent to do this job, and you will have a huge, expensive failure. Use one of the many companies discussed here on Creative Cow that do this for a living, and you will have a wonderful working system. Remember – this should be a simple project – don’t make it complicated. Don’t make it an IT nightmare.
I am sorry if I sound insulting in this post. But you need to stop relying on who the school uses, and get a qualified vendor that makes these systems.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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AJA Data Calc
https://www.red.com/tools – click on Recording Timethese are tools I use every day. You can put AJA Data Calc on your iPhone if you like. I did.
850 MB/sec is fast enough for any single workstation for any format.
Regular drives, even in a 16 bay will peak out at about 1500 MB/sec in a RAID 5 configuration. Want faster speeds ? Get SSD drives – expensive and small, but faster than anything you can do with SATA drives. I do not believe in striping across multiple chassis to get faster speeds – it’s just too risky, if you have a failure.Bob Zelin
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4K London can afford to have someone help you.
Bob Zelin
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Rescue 1, Inc.
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Hi –
the netstor NA333TB is NOT shared storage. This is a drive array, not a shared storage system. It’s not even a cheapie NAS like a QNAP, Synology, Thecus, ReadyNAS, or (dare I say it) Drobo. Its a DRIVE ARRAY.You need an IT professional to setup a server for you, that uses the wonderful NA333TB as the shared drive volume. You can then plug this into a hi speed switch, and have shared storage. And for your next question “do I have to dedicate a computer as a server to make this work” – the answer is YES.
Need some help ?
bob Zelin
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Rescue 1, Inc.
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Hi Jose –
This is an old thread. Before I answer, I don’t get it. If you own a thunderbolt RAID and two Thunderbolt Mac computers, why not just test this yourself to see what happens. All you do it plug in the two thunderbolt cables to the RAID’s thunderbolt looping ports, and try it. You will find the answer in 2 seconds.OK – the answer is NO – it still does not work. Thunderbolt networking, with reliable speeds that you can edit with does not work. Once again, at NAB 2015, I spent a lot of time with the Intel guys in the UPSTAIRS south hall discussing this. It’s still being worked on, but it does not work. Intel showed a demo of 6 computers daisy chained to each other with Thunderbolt. You lose 10% performance with each daisy chain, and that does not account for the sporadic poor speeds that you get with a direct thunderbolt connection.
However, if you simply hookup some thunderbolt to 10G Ethernet adpators from Sonnet, ATTO, or Promise, you can do exactly what you want using a Mac Mini as the server. If you want a pure thunderbolt product, you can buy the new Accusys that allows you to connect up to three computers (no expansion) with thunderbolt – $10,000 for 64 TB, and you need a mac mini server for the XSAN metadata and Tiger share or XSAN running on your workstations.
SO NO – there is no cheapo solution where you just plug in two computers with simple thunderbolt cables. Not as of May 2nd, 2015.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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boy there are lot of guys in Bozeman Montana !
you should contact Grizzly Creek Films, or Helio Collective, or Unbranded (Implement Productions) all in Bozeman, or Sprout Films in Missoula. Or Brain Farm in Jackson Hole, WY. and ask all of them what they did. Then you will have the answer to your question.
Bob Zelin
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Rescue 1, Inc.
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Hi Tim –
yes you need the Netgear XS712T
yes you need the Mac Pro as a server
and yes, you need some more stuff –
and no, those are not fiber ports on the XS712Tonce you start making money with multiple systems, your wife will not only still get into bed with
you at night, but she will be tearing your clothes offBob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com