[Billyj]

Hi Lev,

I also have problems to export from ppro 2.0 and I’ve now read many posts here and on Adobe’s forum about that question. There is no doubt ppro 2.0 has a bug with it.

On my side, I made a test with only one high resolution still (4000 x 4000 pix), for a duration of five seconds, on wich I applied some scaling effects (different values between in and out point). I noticed that if the values were under 50 (in “49”, out “30”, for example), the rendering time was a few minutes, if the values were over 50 (in “60”, out “100”), the rendering time was a few seconds (see my post below).

We all know ppro 1.5 had a problem with high res stills (green screen when calculating), we are now all discovering they have solved the green screen by amazingly slow rendering.

The question is 1/ how is it possible that beta testers of a company like Adobe didn’t notice this problem (if you add they already had a still problem with ppro 1.5)? 2/ how to persuade Adobe to solve quickly this problem, considering they usually don’t like to admit their own mistakes ? We will first be told : “are you sure you have the problem”, then “It must be your computer or XP”, then “you should reinstall every thing”, etc. Many will loose hours and days for nothing. And the reply “this very long calculating process is the price for a (so called) better quality” is not acceptable for a software called “pro”.

Adobe, could you please hear your customers ?

[Billyj]

So am I the only one to have this problem ?
Could someone make this easy test to confirm ? (5 mn).
Thanks

[Billyj]

I am in dv pal 48khz (but I don’t use sound) and dv pal export, optimize still, scratch disk on another partition than the OS.

Thanks.

[Billyj]

Very interesting but for those whose think it is an acceptable problem, could you please make this easy test : create a 4000×4000 pixels still under photoshop. Put it on the timeline of ppro 2.0 for a duration of 5 sec. Add a scale keyframe to the in point for a value of 30, add a scale keyframe to the out point for a value of 10. Try to render. Now I hope you like coffee very much. What is strange is that if the value of the scaling remains over 50 %, there is no rendering problem.

If you set in 51% / out 52 %, it takes few seconds to render.

If you set in 48% / out 49 %, it takes few minutes.

To my opinion, this is a big problem and cannot be justify by the size of the picture. It is very common to zoom in high res picture. And 4000 pix is not so high today. Vegas can do this kind of calculation without problem. Adobe should correct this as soon as possible for their customers. It is also almost sure that this rendering problem will occur with other filters or settings.

[Billyj]

Ok, make this test :
create a 4000×4000 still with photoshop. Import it on the timeline of ppro 2.0 for a duration of 5 s. Apply a fade and a zoom to the still (scale < 50 %). Then try to render it. It will probably take more than 1 mn for only 5 s, depending on the computer ! When you discover this problem at the end of a 3 mn edit with only stills, it looks a little bit like a mess.

[Billyj]

I know green screen has been fixed (it seems so), but it is replaced by this amazing rendering time. Who knows, maybe rendering time will then be “fixed” by some red screens… Why is it so hard to solve and to check this kind of bugs before releasing the software ? Marketing is easier than programming.

[Billyj]

Hi,

I don’t have exactly the same problem as yours, but I also noticed an amazing time for rendering high res stills with ppro 2.0. See my post over. Premiere “pro” seems to have a big problem with rendering. I really don’t understand how they can release their soft without testing them deeply.