Andy Patterson
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[Oliver Peters] “[andy patterson] “Profits are more important than the customers needs.”
Any company that doesn’t actually believe this is lying to you. I don’t think Apple is any different in that regard. You don’t stay in business very long if there are no profits, regardless of how happy the customers are. Unless of course, you’re Avid.
☺”All businesses want to make money but there is usually a little consideration for what would be good for the customer even if it is not top priority. Apple has no consideration for it’s customer. I feel the same way about Adobe’s CC paradigm. Apple and Adobe care about profits only. They do not care about making the best products possible for the end user.
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[Andrew Kimery] “They are designing it around their vision of what the pro market needs, and it’s what they’ve always done. They make something they want to make and customers can take it or leave it. Usually it’s a hit (iMac, iPod, etc.,) but sometimes it’s not (G4 Cube, Ping, etc.,). When it jives with what a user wants they mistakenly think “Cool, Apple made this for me” and when it doesn’t they go “Man, why did Apple abandon me?” when Apple didn’t target that user or abandon that user. Apple just made what they made and it happened to mesh with what that user wanted at the time.”
I agree with everything except the first sentence. I don’t think there is a pro market or consumer market. There is just Apple’s way of thinking. Profits are more important than the customers needs.
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[Tareq Faroun] “Is there any encryption issues that would block the DVD from being captured?”
I think people have stated that if you use the component connectors instead of HDMI the Intensity Shuttle will work with the XBOX and Sony Play Station. I cannot test it out because I do not have and Xbox or Play Station. You might find a Youtube video that show the Intensity Shuttle doing game capture.
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There are several high-definition video capture cards on the market. The Blackmagic Design Intensity Shuttle is not the easiest capture card to use but it can allow for real-time playback from the Adobe Premiere Pro timeline to broadcast monitors. I use it more for real-time playback to broadcast equipment than capturing video. Most of the other inexpensive capture cards will not work with high-end video editing software. I like using my Intensity Shuttle but you might opt for something else.
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Pro Market VS Consumer Market?
There is no such thing at Apple and never will be. There is only marketing hype along with smoke and mirrors. 95% of the Apple users drink the Kool-Aid. The other 5% do not matter. It is all about money. Apple knows there are users (5%) that would welcome a generic mATX computer system for $900.00 but Apple also knows the majority of the Apple user base will stay loyal no matter what Apple releases. If Apple used a generic Asus mATX mobo with a core i7 and a GTX 1070 Apple could not claim superior build quality if the exact same components were in a $1200.00 Dell or HP. Buy not offering generic ATX computer (that are much less expensive for the consumer but at the same time not as lucrative for the company) 95% of Apple users will think they have a superior product. As I stated the 5% that know the truth do not matter. That is why Apple has their funky proprietary forum factors. They use smoke and mirrors to give the illusion that the Apple products are better than a Dell or HP Computer. In the end they all use parts from Nvidia, ATI, Intel, Seagate, Crucial, Samsung, Foxconn, LG etc.
If Apple used generic ATX parts that are found in $900.00 Dell or $900.00 HP systems Apple would be hard pressed to charge $1,500.00 for the exact same thing. If you want a generic ATX computer there is Windows or Hackintosh. Apple will not sell generic ATX computers because they couldn’t get a big 30% markup using generic ATX parts even though some user (5%) would welcome a generic ATX Apple computer. 5% of the user base is so small and there would be so little profit for Apple. If you are one of the 5% you have to accept the truth of reality.
If Apple sold a generic mATX computer with a GTX 1080 and a 4.2 GHZ Core i7 Kaby Lake CPU with 32 GB of RAM for $1400.00 how many of you would buy it?
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[Bill Davis] “[andy patterson] “Apple users may say touch screen is a waste of time but keep in mind they haven’t really used it. ”
Gosh.
Swap “Apple users” in the abovequote for “the internet”
Then swap “touch screen” for “Touch Bar” –And you have totally described the end of of 2016 in on-line tech forums.
Of course this time it’s Microsoft looking to innovate – so it’s … different, I guess.”
Bill, remember how awesome the iPad was when they showed a DAW interface and showed that with the iPad you could raise and lower the fader for channel 1 as well as simultaneously muting channel 3 and 4? I admit I thought it was kind of cool to use it like a control surface. Remember how they showed the iPad being used as a sketch pad for artists? I admit I thought it was kind of cool. With MS we don’t have a mobile OS and a desktop OS. So if the iPad Pro is awesome just think Bill; the MS Surface is like an iPad Pro on steroids (Windows 10 and i7 CPU). I don’t see creative professionals wanting a Mac Book Pro with the touch bar. I do see them wanting the Surface Studio although it is to expensive for most people as of now but the price will drop. If it is awesome to use touch screen to raise and lower faders on the iPad as well draw, sketch and design on the iPad wouldn’t it make sense that all that stuff would be even more awesome using OS X (Sierra)?
[Bill Davis] “Of course this time it’s Microsoft looking to innovate – so it’s … different, I guess.”
Most people see MS’s paradigm as a tad bit superior to Apple’s paradigm.
MS’s Paradigm = MS gives the user the best of both worlds. One OS that does it all!
Apple’s paradigm = If you want to draw and sketch using a touch screen use our iOS. If you want a desktop OS to draw and sketch go use the MS Surface Pro. And that my friend is why many Mac users have opted for the Surface Pro : )
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[Oliver Peters] “Unfortunately the problem with touch interfaces based on fingers instead of a stylus is that they require a fatter target area. This results in interfaces with larger buttons and less fine detail. Sony’s Catalyst software is an example of an interface designed to be touch-friendly. This might change in the future, but a lot of aspects of FCPX3’s new UI are not conducive to touch operation.”
That is my point. A lot will depend on the software. There are Mac users who use Illustrator and Photoshop and stated using the MS Surface Studio felt more natural than using a keyboard and mouse. I already stated FCPX might not be the best software for touch screen support as is. I am sure more and more professional software programs will take advantage of touch screen as well as the Surface Dial. The ability to use touch screen with surface controls will allow MS to offer the best of both worlds. I myself welcome the different options. Apple will force you to edit their way.
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[Jim Cunningham] “Perhaps a work around might be to use a product like ScreenFlow and do a screen capture of the multicam screen. I believe the latest version allows you to select segments of the screen for capture.”
On a Mac Screen Flow should work. For PC users with a newer Nvidia graphics card Shadowplay would work.
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[Michael Gissing] “[andy patterson]”I know what the Fairlight surface control (keyboard) looks like. My point is that it will get smudges. It will probably be harder to clean a control surface device than a touch screen. ”
As a long term user I am telling you that is not the case so your point is not made with me.”
My Cellphone never needs cleaning either. See my point? I bet if you took a white cloth to the Fairlight surface control the white cloth would in fact become dirty. That is my point little buckaroo. It is not so filthy you cannot use it. I don’t use my audio board that much but when I do clean it the white Q-Tips turn black. All devices will get filthy and smudgy. Why you are only bother about the touch screen getting smudgy is beyond me. By the way it does take longer to clean my control surface, audio board and keyboard than it does to clean a screen.
[Michael Gissing] “[andy paterson]”we will probably see more touch screens on the market and the price will probably drop as well. Price vs functionality will probably play a role for most users. Wouldn’t you agree?”
A whole generation is becoming accustomed to touch screen and they are getting better and cheaper so I would agree. It doesn’t alter my long experience with all alternatives and I still find properly designed ergonomic dedicated controllers superior. I have many years experience of switching between DAWs with dedicated controllers and NLEs without. NLEs are much harder on the body and slower to perform tasks. This is not just hardware but software. As few editors cover the range of software that I do I am not surprised they don’t appreciate the benefits of dedicated hardware and well written software. Smart things like dials on the Surface are a hybrid with merit. Same for touchbars versus function keys but as always ergonomics are so often overlooked in all touch based applications.”
That is my point. The Surface Dial combined with a touch screen may add some functionality that a control surface cannot. As others have pointed touch screen monitors work right out of the box. Some of the control surfaces are expensive not to mention the fact that touch screens will get better and better and devices like the Surface Dial will get better and better. As I have stated a lot will depend on the software being used. Cakewalk, Premiere and Photoshop all have a GUI with total customization. Pinnacle Studio and FCPX do not. When using multiple monitors with touch screen capability you can really have a lot of functionality if the GUI offers 100% customization.
I am not saying touch screens will be the best option for everyone or even be the best option for video editing in 2021 . I am saying for some software titles and some users it might be better than using control surfaces. Having said that I highly doubt the Apple engineers are saying the Surface Studio sucks ass but who knows for sure? I do know there are Apple users who want OS X to get touch screen support and they have valid reason for wanting touch screen support.
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[Shane Ross] “”STANDARD COMPONENTS.”
Apple won’t do it because they don’t do “standard components.” Everything has to be new and their design and proprietary.”
I agree and it sucks for the customers.