Andy Patterson
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[Jeremy Garchow] “You do understand that this it’s not just storage, right?”
Yes I do. I am not saying it is not a good system for the price. I am kind of stating the obvious don’t you think? Why doesn’t Apple offer a generic ATX system? Obviously some people need their Apple computers rackmounted don’t they? Some users want the Apple OS to be set free as a generic install. No more Hackintosh just another PC build in general. I know Apple will not do it but the images prove that it would be useful don’t you think? Do you kind of see my point? Install the OS X on a generic ATX computer. Three our four years later when you upgrade why not be able to use the older system to create a system like the Jellyfish (for the 5%)? You cannot even add a generic USB 3.1 PCIE card to the Mac Pro. I am not saying you would want to but you cannot ad any new technology.
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[Brett Sherman] “First off I don’t know who the heck PewdiePie is. I’m talking mostly about social media companies like AJ+. There is a lot to their organization, aesthetic, workflow that I believe would be informative.”
I never heard of AJ+ until now. They obviously don’t have a marketing strategy on par with Facebook or Youtube.
[Brett Sherman] “More business-oriented angle for Youtubers. Really not about any individual, but the market as a whole. And I think within that group there would be various levels of expertise. The fact is, all of them are still making aesthetic decisions that impact their reach. What works for them? What doesn’t? Honestly, I can’t imagine not being curious about this kind of thing.”
Once again I am not 100% sure what you want. It does sound like you want some business and marketing advise. As with anything what works for one person may not work for another. What works for one product may not work for another. Marketing is hard work.
[Brett Sherman] “And if you’re in the business of helping organizations with their social media, I’m not sure being uninterested is really doing much for your clients.”
I am not in that business. I don’t think most users in this forum are. The internet is a big place. Perhaps there are better forums to get the information you want.
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[Ronny Courtens] “There is much more to this system than just storage. Most of the research and engineering has gone into creating the fastest pipeline possible between the head unit (server) inside the box and the direct attached user connections. But what really makes this system stand out is that Write actions (ingest, exporting etc…), even at high speed , do not affect the Read performance. That’s why so many people chose this solution for high-speed editing against fierce deadlines.”
I hear what your are saying but I think I can go and buy all the same parts myself. I am not saying the system is not a good system. I imagine it works great for the price.
[Ronny Courtens] “In the picture you see how easy it is to transport this system in a Pelican case. It also gives an interesting view on how they have set up their new MacPros in the server rooms.”
I am hip to the rackmount devices for the Mac Pro but I would prefer a generic rackmount form factor myself (for transporting and in the studio).
[Ronny Courtens] “The JellyFish Mobile is the smallest system LumaForge sells and it has a constant total bandwidth of 1800 MBS Read AND Write with SSD caching and close to zero latency.”
If built a complete ATX editing system that could read and right at 1800 MBS would it be considered awesome or just a crappy DIY? I am not knocking the system over all. I just think if Apple did make a generic ATX computer the select few (5%) might be able to configure some awesome inexpensive systems on their own.
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[Tom Sefton] “It’s small enough for carry on or you can purchase a custom peli case. The company make much larger options which have been installed rackmount – for a Swiss TV station recently I believe. If you want more details have a look at the Lumaforge website.”
You can find smaller rackmount units that can use generic rackmount cases. The rackmount unit I showed has a lot of hot swap hard drive bays for adding drives as opposed to replacing hem. Although they can be replaced really quick by hot swapping them. No need to power it off.
[Tom Sefton] “The performance/ease of use/ease of use with fcpx(or Adobe or avid)/size/tech support/plug and play are big selling points – probably would be cheaper options out there but same issues as with home made PC – you need to DIY and solve issues yourself.”
Aren’t they in some ways just doing it themselves? I imagine I can buy all the same parts as they used. I would trust myself as much as them.
[Tom Sefton] “Directly competes with g-tech on price but allows up to 6 editors to work on a project with up to 240TB of rushes in raw in realtime, via 10Ge connection with great performance. And a 3 year warranty and remote support!”
I imagine it does compete with G-Tech. I was just hoping you could post the price. Having said that If you get more hard drive bays and 12 TB hard drives the storage space can be huge.
[Tom Sefton] “This plus fcpx is a brilliant package for completing medium to large projects that before were unavailable.”
Can you elaborate? Can’t Avid and Premiere work with this system as well as Mac and PC?
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I see they used a Micro ATX form factor. The case is kind of unique. It is shorter than most mATX cases because the power supply is of to the side of the I/O ports but that will also make it wider.
Below is a quote from the article
“I think anybody including the old ‘seen it all before’ shared storage technicians would be impressed by 900 MB/s read/write on two iMacs from a desktop unit
That is simply the end result of RAID system. I am not knocking the system overall. The throughput is good but did they expect a read an write speed of only 200 MBPS? I can get serial ATA SCSI (SAS) controllers for $80.00 and 32 TB of storage (4 TB X 8) for about $880.00 SATA or $1600.00 SAS. Having said that I see a SATA drive in the picture. How much is this system?
If it is going to be traveling on flights wouldn’t a rackmount system with hot swap drive bays in a flight case be better? I am just curious if the case below would work? If so you could easily stripe 12 SAS drives together and upgrade another 12 as needed.
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[Brett Sherman] “I’m not sure I agree with that. I think they are using templates in a new way to push content out fast. The end product is certainly much different. But it’s hard to know given that nobody is covering it. And if you’ve ever tried to develop a template workflow, quite frankly it is not simple. Even beyond the technical challenges there is also the organizational and business model structure that would also be interesting.”
I am not sure I follow. Some of the Youtubers do behind the scenes video. What they show is not rocket science so I am not 100% cent sure what you want explained to you. Is there a Youtube channel we should checking out to get an idea?
[Brett Sherman] “It’s sort of in the eye of the beholder isn’t it. You want to read articles that inform your workflow. I want to read articles that inform my workflow. I’m just not seeing a lot of the latter here. The real question becomes, is this a board only for those who work on narrative or TV production? Some seem to want it to be.”
Are you talking more about how to market on social media? In other words not how does PewdiePie edit (everyone should be able to edit a PewdiePie video) but how did he market his channel? To be honest the YouTube success stories happened from people just being themselves and gaining an audience from pure luck. They didn’t put any thought into it at first. What works for a 21 your old female may not work for you. As I stated I am not 100% sure what you want to know.
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[Ronny Courtens] “When I asked the Head of Post-Production why, he said (quote): “Because our students find it very easy to learn. So we don’t have to spend much time explaining buttons and menus, and we can focus on what’s really important: teaching them the art of editing. Once they master this, they can easily learn any other NLE if their job would require this in the future.”
You would think so but I have seen many videos where FCPX user demonstrate the difference between FCPX and Premiere Pro and they try to edit in Premiere Pro like it is FCPX. I see this often and I think to myself “wow you are making things ten times harder than they should actually be”. Did they test out other NLE? I am not saying they should if the following below is true.
[Ronny Courtens] “Furthermore, all of the (over 100) tv and movie production companies associated with the school use FCP X. This makes it easy for us to get our graduation students internships at these companies. And most of these internships lead to them getting a first job.””
Obviously that make sense if the school has an internship where FCPX is used.
[Ronny Courtens] “I just got back from visiting the most renowned film school in Spain where each year 1800 students from Spain and from all over the world get their Masters Degree in Film&Television.”
They say standard Radio & TV will be a thing of the past in the USA. The UHF stations were supposed to be auctioned off for true 5G. I read a couple of articles about in the past. Will it actually happen or will something better come along?
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The video link below might be of some interest. You can also make a feature request.
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You can make subclips.
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[Andrew Kimery] “[Brett Sherman] “Nobody is writing about the editing tools and techniques of Youtubers who make a good living with their videos. Personally I’d love to know about the production workflow of AJ+ or Attn: or any of the other Facebook media creators. Those could also be interesting reads, but I’ve never seen one on Creative Cow. ”
To be honest, outside of the ins/outs of publishing to social media I’m not sure how unique and/or interesting those post workflows would be for people already familiar with post workflows.
For example, I doubt solo YouTubers like Pewdiepie or Michelle Phan have very exotic editing workflow because their business model doesn’t require it (though they might really be keen on the new social media publishing ability for PPro that’s currently in beta)”
I agree.