Andre Van berlo
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“Arstechnica is very correct in the fact that the 2013 MacPro can’t compete with the higher end PCs.”
do you mean similar spec’d pc’s or simply because the higher end pc’s can have multiple cpu setups?
I’ve tried to setup a similar pc at digitalstorm but couldn’t get it cheaper, but you can however get much more cores.
I don’t know if you can connect 2 mac pro’s and have them work as 1, in that case you could go up to 24 cores for 13k. But I don’t know how that compares to what you would pay for a highend pc.
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“I’m not asking for my old tower back, but throw me a bone here—I just paid $6,500 for the same render speeds I had three years ago. That’s not revolutionary from any angle.”
So he’s talking about dual cpu computer and also about that he doesn’t mind the higher price,… Then why did he spend ‘only’ $6500 on his mac pro? I would have understood what he was saying if he had bought the maxed out version. Or is a 12 core D300 $6500? (not sure about that, don’t know the prices by heart and the apple store is down for maintenance)
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“CS6 isn’t dead. It’s still being sold and still gets updates.”
I agree, but when CS6 owners will need CC (which has, the cc only software excluded, all the same programs) because their software isn’t compatible anymore, isn’t that kind of the same? But I guess because they’re still selling it that’s a risk one takes. At the same time, no one knew when cs6 was initially released that CC was around the corner and they would eventually have to switch to that. But I guess I’m the only one who thinks that’s a bit odd. 🙂
Anyway, didn’t want to hijack this thread. By the looks of it, adobe is doing ok…
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“What’s strange about old versions of software being replaced by new versions of software that have new features? Have CS 5, FCP 6 or Avid MC 5.5 received any feature updates?”
yes but how old are they? CS6 turned into old software about the minute it was created. released April 23, 2012, and announced dead May 6, 2013? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Suite)–>
Add to that the compatibility problems between CC and CS6 and I see they’ve found a way to get a few extra pennies…
They could also have updated the CS suite owners the first 2 – 2,5 years. Now people having bought software for 3K can start a subscription 1 year later because their programs are not compatible. I don’t have those problems personally but it seems like a poor way to “repay” your loyal customers…
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“CS 6 is fine if you want to be frozen in time with those features and whatever operating system it continues to work on…just as FCP 7 is fine in a similar fashion.”
well that is exactly what I mean, 3k for a suite, and no feature updates never…. strange policy
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I must say (this is probably off topic) that I found it weird that I’ve bought CS6 collection but all efforts of Adobe are focused on CC. This is somewhat disturbing as CS6 collection(master collection) wasn’t really cheap. Nice they found a new way of selling products but to me feels like they leave the others who’ve invested in their company with “empty hands” in terms of feature updates. (or am i missing something?)
Also, when buying CS6 this was not really clear to me it was going in this direction. Having said that, don’t think I would have done the subscription thing… -
I’m sure there are horror stories about any DAW, NLE, or any piece of software out there. In some cases the horror stories find their origin in user error, in other cases it’s the software.
Somehow I think if the NLE has the features you need it comes down to how the software connects with your mind and way of thinking. I’ve used premiere cs5, cs5,5 and have cs6. But since I started working on FCPX I’ve never touched premiere again, only for the warp stabilizer to fix my crappy holiday videos where i was too lame to carry a tripod.
FCPX does most things the way I expect them to work. At first I thought it would be hard to learn but most basic things work as they should(in my mind). But I’m not a pro editor, I didn’t have 20+ years doing things in a certain way that I had to forget because X is so different.
Once FCPX xml to logic works also with complicated timeslines I’ll be a very happy camper. By the way, I’ve got no experience with FCP6 or 7, nor do I have experience with premiere pro cc.
Like the others said, download the trial, and cut a few videos with it. Perhaps you’ll be happily surprised. 🙂
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I definitely agree with you about the “serious editor” thing. I used those words because some here seem to think the only serious editors live in a certain place and do certain things.
I’m not so sure only young editors would be anxious telling others they like ‘X’. I understand you don’t mind but that doesn’t necessarily go for all pro’s out there.
But I’m not in the industry so I’ll have to take anyone’s word for it in the end 🙂
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I’m not an editor, don’t know any editors, nor am I living in LA, NY, or London…
But here’s a thought:
I do know that answers to questions depends on the one who asks them and/or how the answer reflects on the person answering the question.
When my mum asked if I took a cookie I would say no, simply because I knew she wouldn’t like it if I did.
If I would be an editor using a program that has been bashed for 2+ years by an entire industry, would I put my credibility on the line by telling people I use it?
It’ll take time for it to be accepted. Some are apparently more open and yes I believe that perhaps no serious in La editor is using it. But the reason why doesn’t necessarily have to do with the program itself but more the “general opinion” about that piece of software.
Like I said, I’m no pro, but there is also some psychology at work. Just look at how this thread “exploded”. 🙂
Just a thought…
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Perhaps because FCPX is different from other NLE’s and it is only just here so there’s a lot more to talk about? More new things to figure out.. Another thing could be the love-hate thing. People seem to love it or hate it. Perhaps because the software gets bashed so many times other people who love it and use it feel the need to express that to balance things… Just a few thoughts… 🙂