[Andreas Kiel]

I anybody wants to test the prototypes let me know.

Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Made a typing error

In X to make the same timeline launch it took about 10 seconds; rendering subtitles (using fxScript generators) in 7.x took 100 seconds.

should read

In X to make the same timeline launch it took about 100 seconds; rendering subtitles (using fxScript generators) in 7.x took 10 seconds.

Andreas

Spherico
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[Andreas Kiel]

some notes regarding FCPXML vs FCP 7 XML.

FCPXML at the moment is a very basic thing. most of the parameters (and metadata) are not transported into the XML. so it is obvious that the xml is very small compared to the project. so it does not make to much sense to compare project and XML.
another thing is that if you look at the XML it is still connected to the original event (by the uuid) this allows the eco system to refer to the project where the XML came from even though it creates a copy of the project.
This can be good or bad. with legacy XML versions people like me where able to change references and parameters. this is not possible at the moment with this version of FCPXML. as many of the parameters are not listed in the new XML type, much of those stuff you might have changed is gone – means you never got a real copy of the clips parameters, effects etc. but everything which is related to the project itself is kept by reference to the original project.
the marker stuff is interesting, i have not tried that, but definively will have a look.

andreas – and i hate typing on the ipad

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[Andreas Kiel]

Adjustments layers can be inserted easily within FCPX – just create an empty title with Motion. As titles render ‘down’ all other clips you can apply color correction or whatever effect (which makes sense) to all the clips below.

Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

One thing I found with the update:
when using the ‘open copy in motion’ for an effect it now tells me that I’ve to buy Motion 5 from the app store. Would be okay if I don’t own it, but I already bought it.
Maybe it’s my machine – but if anybody else had the same experience let me know so I can file a bug.

Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Thanks for the answers.

I used the PDF print option, which works fine.
I am still a bit confused since can use the given links and search there while FCPX at the same time tells me that I’m not connected to the internet.

Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

I totally agree that X is very effective for news and sports. The Motion integration is great.
I do get my (private) DSLR and GoPro stuff done with a snip of the fingers.

The things I do earn money with are quite often either impossible or time consuming. Take P2 or the old Alexa stuff I got. Take the BWAV I got. Where is the file based editing and the metadata?
Take the subtitling (or titling) things where a lot of people rely on me.
This is all gone.

I can find a lot of arguments for trackless editing, I can find as same as lot for track based editing. Would be fine to have the choice.

Also would be fine if X wouldn’t switch the tool once you went to another app.
Could be great if you would be able to easily reconnect clips.
Would be great if XML would make sense and not all title formatting is lost
And so on …

But I agree for sport/news/short spots it(FCPX) makes sense.

Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Jeremy,

I would say current XML is pretty incomplete and if I would have the time I would take the same approach done by the foolcut people.

If you look at the XML documentation of FCPXML and remove empty pages, the disclaimers and those pages which link to nothing or just have 1 line of text you end up with 5 pages, while the legacy XML documentation (doing the same things) is above 100 pages. So I think there is a lot of stuff missing with this release.
Quite a good example are subtitles with FCPXML. As soon as you are export a project you are loosing any custom formatting. You could some back if you do have the matching Motion assets. But at this point of time there is no documentation for that. Legacy version of FCP XML allowed to extract the basics (font, size, style and alignment) of a subtitle even if you didn’t have the generator installed. Now every kind of subtitles are Motion based and formatting (same as in FCP with Motion based text generators, but at least some stuff came over). With FCPX you can’t import an FCPXML when you changed base formatting for subtitles, everything will be reset to some kind of default. Export XML and don’t change anything within the XML and import that XML you exported a second ago and you are screwed up. That’s poor from my point of view.

You know me long enough to know that I quite often was not happy with the different versions of FCP and the XML handling and did say it loud. At the moment I regret I have to say this new version doesn’t look very promising.
Regarding subtitles PPro is more or less as same as bad. Multicam limited to 4 might not be enough for many people – but at least some basic stuff is there.

As said before the only thing we can do is to sit and wait for the next version – but for me I’m not that confident. Big things need to be done.

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Hm,

Some thoughts of mine.

A lot of people say that FCPX compared to FCP is database driven. FCP was database driven as well – but used another concept.

Regarding multicam work I do see some problems: The current UI using a single viewer. I also do see some problems with timecode which currently is not supported in a way that you can have either multiple tc tracks or can modify them. You can’t sync by timecode all. The ‘synchronize by audio’ stuff doesn’t work for me. I can use it, the audio will be out of sync and I can re-arrange this kind of merged clip by hand. But that’s not something I do expect from an all new video editing app.
I don’t know how many of you dived into the XML stuff provided by FCP legacy and FCPX. I was one of those who did, sometimes to get workarounds, sometimes to better understand how the app was working (and how the database is organized).
Current FCPXML is pretty poor (also with documentation) – I even would say it’s not a version 1 release. Anyway it’s there and it’s a step forward.
But if I look at the options I get to create multiclips I’m a bit desperate as the XML interface doesn’t allow to do any of the legacy options to sync multiple audio and video sources into one clip. You still can go the ‘syncronize & secondary route’, but that neither elegant nor time saving.
I’ve to agree that this kind of stuff hasn’t been that reliable in FCP legacy – so I created an external app to feed old FCP with reliable multiclips. This option is gone at least for the current release.

So all we can do is to sit and wait for a new release and start the discussion again when it’s out.

Andreas

P.S. For those who want to know how our workflow had been for FCP 7
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools/movies/multiSync.mov – sorry it lost the VO

Spherico
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[Andreas Kiel]

Unfortunately I’m in hospital next weeks and can’t help that much. But Jeremy’s suggestion seems to be okay.

Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools