[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Oliver Peters] “the only option that they could offer at this time was a Creative Cloud Team subscription. “

aaarrrrrggg. if they actually try and do this the amount of volcanic FUD that will erupt out of the ground will make the mountains of madness look like disneyland.
The PR risk is insane.
the boardroom would want to be utterly hell bent to insanity to get at the bank account direct debits to even consider this.
It would fundamentally damage the narrative of the release. not to mention their actual brand.

because then its not the nice Adobe of Al Mooney and Monaghan and them that everyone was so tickled by at NAB –
its just an insane board and CEO frothing at the mouth trying to please the funds that own over 90% of the company, by financially breaking the arms of every customer to get into their bank accounts ongoing. It’s a PR nightmare that narrative.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Oliver Peters] ” if the CC subscription is the only option, “

are we mad to think they could actually do that? I can’t decide if I’m barmy to be concerned about it – simply because adobe can’t say anything about upcoming licensing terms.

I mean – 80% of the user base is currently on perpetual license? As in someone posted that adobe announced 20% of the customer base were on the cloud?
It’s inconceivable they could try and literally force three quarters of their customers onto bank direct debit hire purchase right?

that would be a PR Fubar of Olympic proportions wouldn’t it?

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

because we were all over in FCP7 land, and all the developers were over there with us. Then a lot of them plunked down for X based on the assumption that the FCPX market was going to be huge, but, that said, quite a lot of developers have announced PPro compatibility recently. Also x has some pretty serious architectural shortcomings in how plug-in GUIs can operate onscreen and in the inspector.

some interesting stuff has started to appear for PPRo – I’ve posted it before but, this dude for instance.
https://vimeo.com/63217761

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

that’s an interesting point. If there’s one thing X has, its a billion plug-in dudes churning stuff out for half nothing. Although there was a poster here – might even have been seeman, saying that certain X developers are a bit dis-enchanted because the customer base doesn’t appear willing to fork out very much money. that the price ceiling is quite low. I think the baselight dudes might have referenced that in explaining why they weren’t mad keen to develop an X baselight.

I guess maybe it depends on what kind of things get made for premiere, and who the customer base turns out to be. If its largely the FCP7 base, then you would feel they are going to fork over for certain things they want that they had in 7. Creative Cloud or no.

As in, the premiere base could possibly turn out to be more lucrative to a certain class of plug-in developer than X. possibly.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

nah fair enough – I actually like the old keyframe setup is the admission basically – I’m on AE since 3.0 – I’d gotten very used to it by the time they went to the graph editor.

I mean, don’t get me wrong, I like the graph editor – and there really is nothing like it when you really want to get in there – controlling camera moves for one – but i was really happy to see the old setup here, mostly because I know it like the back of my hand. So I’m biased in a sense…

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

ha ha. poor man 🙂
God love you with the new audio plug-ins in X – seriously – don’t open them, they’ll freak you out completely.
best stick with the old brightness contrast and a nice ken burns effect…. tee hee.

seriously though – you’ve never used curves or ease on a keyframe?

Aaaanyway – point still stands – its an excellent keyframe setup, and x really isn’t easy for keyframing, even for people easily confused –
it’s just pretty brutally badly designed?
For me – Apple’s biggest problem is that they removed tabs as a gui option. That just created a host of problems.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

to be fair this makes absolutely no sense – you’re suggesting throwing the user into the full keyframe graph editor view?

How exactly is that supposed to work in that real estate? er, the graph editor replaces the timeline in AE?
Does that make sense to you in this context?

My point was actually that I specifically liked to be working in the pre-graph editor keyframe apparatus in this context. Sometimes you really miss it.
You have the same degree of control more or less, but it’s inline and not as dis-orientating as the switch to the graph editor can be.

But more basically – this keyframing completely kicks FCP7, X, and Avid’s asses off the street and down the lane.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

to be fair I’m still basically bluffing with 6 – but there is an edit extend issue depending on the scenario. it kind of depends whether you are pushing a roll decision edit through the next clip point? That said, I could just boot up PPr6.

Still a tinkerer before PPro 7 ET mothership lands. Which does fix that scenario.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

wait for 7 – four weeks out – i think this might be what you’re on about?

https://vimeo.com/62439842

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

and also maybe hold off til 7 if you’re jumping in, it’s four weeks out – 6 is good, but 7 is effectively the mother lode. It actually is warp drive FCP8.

ProRes native – speedgrade looks as adjustment layers drops – the entire nine yards. It’s a mental release.

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