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Gary Pollard
July 3, 2011 at 4:17 amI am just seeing a huge gap in opinion on this between people actually getting to grips with it and those who are not. (And two weeks is a short time even for those doing so).
As the very worst of all TV reports tend to end, “only time will tell”.
My bet is FCP X is in a lot of pro suites in five years. And AVID and Premiere are borrowing more from it. (And I’m not anti-Premiere by any means), I’m completing a project on it right now.
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Joe Moya
July 3, 2011 at 4:23 amI think it is less about getting a grip on FCPX…
But, FCPX is a non-starter because it has no.., nada, Zilch, ZERO… backward compatibility…
That alone is a BIG deal killer for lot of editing shops….
So, …now you have editors that are not even going to give it the benefit of the doubt and simply bad mouth it… and, I frankly don’t see any lip service, PR or marketing that is going to overcome that problem.
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Gary Pollard
July 3, 2011 at 4:43 amI have sympathy for that issue.
But this is certainly not the first time Apple have ignored backward compatibility. Maybe I’m less horrified than some because it is really standard operating procedure for them.
I’m cross platform.
I like my Mac stuff, but I’ve always felt I could do anything I want on Windows and I can do anything Steve Jobs thinks I SHOULD want on Mac. SOP. People love that arrogance when they think it works FOR them.
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Gary Pollard
July 3, 2011 at 4:59 amI didn’t say they did it ONLY for love, but it’s a necessary component.
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David Roth weiss
July 3, 2011 at 6:06 am[Miriam Lefkowitz] “Even if someone is trolling there is no need to make this personal.”
I put a damn smiley face on that one Miriam. What’s a guy gotta do here to get a giggle, laugh at my own jokes, write a humor disclaimer at the bottom with asterisks?
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Craig Alan
July 3, 2011 at 7:49 amI’m reading very few objections to the new interface. If FCPX was ready for prime time then no doubt people would be arguing over the new vs. the old way of doing things. AVID vs. FC type dialog. And then you might have a valid point. But that’s not what is happening.
What is happening is Apple is pulling the plug on FCP 7 before FCPX is ready to handle multicam and interact with other professional programs.
What is happening is Apple is telling folks that FCP 1-7 projects will never be opened in FCPX. I’m guessing that the “pros” will create a workaround. At what cost?
Imagine if MS came out with a new version of Word that was unable to open any previous documents created in MS Word. And your old word program will not be supported or work with the next gen of OS. The new WORD is simpler to learn, less bloated, has a more modern interface, look, and feel. It’s fun to use. Everything about it is better. Forget your old documents. The computer interface is more important than your ideas and work. Move on. There is no past and the present form of literacy is owned by MS.
Apple, Google, Adobe, and lesser knowns would all increase their market share of word document creation apps that could import and read the old word documents.
I completely agree with Apple that tape is old tech and a pain in the ass compared to file based storage. But until file based storage becomes more secure, more economical, and replaces tape distribution to a greater extent than it has, the real world is not ready for a “pro” editing program that cannot export to tape. Nor is it needed. Both/AND not Either/OR.
When Apple is at its best, it creates products and workflows that improve on existing form and function – MAC OS, Ipod, Iphone, Macbook Pro are four examples. But they have become a company that plain and simple abuses power. The Internet is providing a very cost effective way to distribute media and ideas. Apple wants a disproportional share of the profit generated by this distribution.
“The New York times has added in-app subscription options to its iPad app, just one day after the deadline for apps to comply with Apple’s new subscription rules, reports MacStories. The rules, although modified from their original form, still specify that Apple will receive 30% of the revenue from any new subscriptions signed up for from within the app.”
Apple is not the first to abuse the power of distribution. The old record companies, the old publishing houses, the old TV networks all abused their power, taking advantage of their control of distribution.
Apple invents the best interface for a music player in history (IMO the best interface of any digital device ever) and yet people are growing up listening to music through crappy speakers and in inferior codec’s than the previous generation.I know these are three seemingly unrelated subjects but for me (and I’m a long time fan/customer of Apple ‘computer’) they are related. I love Jobs/Apple’s attention to detail; they take product design to an artistic level. But the devil too is in those details. Not using customer surveys to determine product development is enlightened. Not caring what is vital to creative professionals is hubris.
I agree the FCPX feature set will grow. Apple is in the business of selling software and hardware so they will make it evolve. I believe that multicam will come soon. But not being able to access old projects? Really?
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Dennis Radeke
July 3, 2011 at 9:50 am[Christopher Beeger] “AND it’s 35mm not 32mm.”
Thank you! Not correcting that was like having something stuck in my teeth.
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Gary Pollard
July 3, 2011 at 11:56 am[Craig Alan] “Imagine if MS came out with a new version of Word that was unable to open any previous documents created in MS Word.”
That’s one reason I already save ALL my documents in Rich Text Format. That, and in case I ever get ticked off with Word.
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Mike Smith
July 3, 2011 at 12:01 pmJust for the record, perhaps we should clarify that 35mm is a film format for camera use (but not 32mm), and that most mainstream movies today are shot on 35mm. And that 35mm can be shot using 4 perforations per frame (standard, using anamorphic lenses for widescreen effect), 3 perforations per frame(instant widescreen, great quality on digital intermediate), or even 8 perforations per frame e.g. Vistavision, which has largely gone I think with IMax / 65mm film acquistion at the super-deluxe end. Even 2 perforations per frame may be back under consideration, as a cost-saving approach (alongside super 16mm ).
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Jeremy Garchow
July 3, 2011 at 12:24 pm[Gary Pollard] ” who tells me she has even edited a documentary on iMovie.”
Hey, at least iMovie had XML export! 😉
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