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“Wunderbaum” – Grading techniques
Hi there,
I thought it might be helpful for one to befriend the nodes in Resolve.
Doing a long and complex project I had time to develop a grading tree that became my standard tool for every job now.
Here is how it looks :
The nodes on the left deal with the technical aspects and technical corrections.
Also the Contrast nodes are more to get the images right at the first place.
I then deal with the overall mood and the use of external masks.
The last part contains predefined masks to darken and lighten the image to embrace the action or focus on the acting.
During grading I add nodes if required to track faces or isolate more colors, but this tree covers 90% of the work required out of the box.
Its much easier to adjust the curves and the keys with the panels only than making the nodes, activating the windows or keys, select a color and THEN tweak it.
The only thing I have to do is activate the node.
All effects are adjusted with the POST MIX slider afterwards to either reduce or enhance the desired effect.Thanks to Blackmagic for making the slider bigger now 🙂
Hope this gives you an idea for future grading jobs.
CheersA slice of color…
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wow!…
Do you have realtime with all nodes on? + external matte?I like the idea to have this “texts” in davinci, can help to remember what a node do.
Thanks for sharing!
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hi sascha, thx for sharing this “wunderbaum” 🙂
by the way, are you speaking german?and: the idea is good, tried things like this before, but still the problem with those “all in one” nodes is the toggle all nodes on/off, isn’t it? each time i want to take a look on the original, those not used nodes will turn on again, therefore this technique was driving me nuts…
how do you handle this issue?
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I always Make a version 0 with the pure ungraded version to show the client where we came from.
Whenever they ask for drastic changes I also make a new version.
Flicking through them is like before and after in in-between
The other befit of the Wunderbaum is the group grading works on it tooA slice of color…
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NICE!
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I’m sorry, but this is the most ridiculous thing I had ever seen in my life. How are you supposed to grade with this monstrosity? I had shots, where I had to use over 20 layers of correction and I can immediately see what had been done on any layer. And, yes, every layer can be a serial, a parallel types with a key mixer in Resolve parlance. Just look the pictures of nodes and layers and judge for yourself, which one would you rather use?:-)
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I see an editing system with a lot of timecode info that belongs into a media browser tab
I am coming from Scratch and used Cyborg earlier, so I totally like the big button world, but Nucoda never got me .
Maybe it’s my Fusion roots that make me dig the node graph , and yes, I really think it’s easier to understand especially if you never saw the project, but know the structure.A slice of color…
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I’m not arguing with your methods of operating Resolve. If you find it efficient to use it the way you described it with given tools, more power to you. My argument is more fundamental. Fusion is a compositing software, as is Nike and Smoke/Flame. They all mostly use nodes and that makes perfect sense. Using nodes for color grading is not efficient nor is it productive. BM needs to rethink the whole Resolve interface paradigm. Perfect example of inefficient interface is AE. It still uses layers paradigm for compositing. May be AE and Resolve should swap they interfaces:-)
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definitely resolve…this thing you put up makes no sense to me at all………
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you got to be kidding…you would need to be a rocket scientist just to figure out what goes where? altho i am warming up to resolve i still love the way color simplifies everything. if you want a secondary you just go into the secondary room and open one…then draw a shape or track it…it’s all so simple…this thing you are showing reminds me of some mad professors chemistry class with all the links to this and that…..i understand the concept but there has to be a simpler way….
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You can read what every layer does, in plain English nevertheless and yet, in you mind this requires a mind of rocket scientist:-) What i find amusing, is you yourself admit, that you don’t understand the Filmmaster’s interface, and yet, you still willing to argue which one is superior. And weren’t you the one, who was arguing, when I was advocating the need for color wheels, but once they showed in 8.0.1, all of a sudden you’re all happy? What can I say, at some point people were happy with tape too… Start exploring some other professional grading platforms (no, Color doesn’t count) and you may can start grasping a need to advance the art of color grading.
For the record, Resolve is a great tool with great engineering foundation, but, in my opinion, in dire need of an interface overhaul. Too much of the old Hollywood baggage…
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