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  • workflow question

    Posted by Elizabeth Thai on January 31, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Hi,
    I’m just curious how people organize a project in Vegas before they start editing.

    For example:
    I’ve gone out and shot a weeks worth of footage. I have all my footage saved into specific folders that relate to that days topic or the name of the person I interviewed. I’m just starting to edit it and I don’t know what shots I’m going to use yet but I know that I’ll likely be pulling a little something from each day of shooting.

    Do you A: start a Vegas project, create media bins that match all your folder names for your project and then load ALL the files into those folders so that when it comes time to editing, everything is already in Vegas?

    Or do you B: Only bring in files as you think you’ll need them, and create media bins to match the files or folders as you need them?

    It seems to me that the first one takes a lot of time at the start but then everything is handy so you can be creative faster. The second one is less prep time but then every time I want to use or preview a new file, I have to wait for it to load in first.

    Or is there another way that I haven’t thought of that would work better?

    On side note: I worked on my first project a couple of months ago and did method A. One problem I found was that if I deleted a file from my computer and didn’t remember to delete it from the media bin, Vegas would constantly pop up at the start saying it couldn’t find such and such file. Also, there seemed to be a glitch where I would delete a file from my computer and from the media bin, but Vegas still popped up looking for that file, even though it no longer existed anywhere and wasn’t on my timeline. It’s gotten to the point where every time I start my Vegas project, I have to tell Vegas to ignore all missing files and leave them offline which is a pain for other reasons.

    I appreciate any advice, thank you!

    Elizabeth Thai replied 14 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Mike Kujbida

    January 31, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    Elizabeth, I’ll answer your side note question first.
    Use the Lightning bolt icon (Remove All Media From Project) and you won’t have this pesky message popping up again.
    Be advised that this will remove ALL FILES from your project that aren’t being used so do this when you’re finished, not part way through as files that you may still want but haven’t used will disappear.
    They can be re-loaded but it can be a pain to do this.

    You’re going to hate me but I’ve used both methods (and a few more) on my projects 🙂

    I’m the primary shooter at my workplace so I know exactly what kind of footage I have for each project.

    If it’s a simple project, I’ll drop all the footage on the timeline, edit out what I don’t want and render.

    With other projects, I create bins according to the type or location of footage and edit from there.

    I used to do grad videos for my kids’ grade school and would organize all the pictures into 5 different bins as we used 5 songs and a bin for each song made sense to me.

    The project I’m currently working on was shot over 3 days last week.
    It’s gong to be a virtual tour of the Health Sciences building for the community college I work for.
    A number of different programs such as Nursing, Paramedic, Pharmacy Tech, etc.) use this facility.
    What I initially did was to create a bin for each days’ footage so that I could give the producer a timecode/clip name dub (thanks to Excalibur for this feature!!) of each day’s footage.
    He will give me a program by program cut list and that’s when I’ll create a bin for each program, sort the raw footage into the appropriate bins and start editing.

    I hope this all makes sense to you.

  • Elizabeth Thai

    January 31, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Thanks for the reply Mike. I guess workflow is specific to each project and person then.

    Do you know why Vegas continues to look for the media that I’ve deleted from my computer and media bins? I’d rather not have to remove all the unused media from my project in case I want to go back and change something down the road.

  • Stephen Mann

    January 31, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    Look in the Project Media window. If the media is there, Vegas wants to load it.
    If you are nesting veg files, then all media in *those* projects also needs to be loaded.

    Don’t forget to save the project (veg file) after you delete unused media from the project.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Elizabeth Thai

    February 1, 2012 at 1:56 am

    oh wow, Stephen thank you. I didn’t even think to look in the main project media folder. I just assumed that if I’d deleted it in the bin, it would be deleted from the project. I’ll have a look at that later tonight. I really hope that solves the problem.

    Thanks so much!

  • James Houghtaling

    February 2, 2012 at 9:09 am

    I tend to organize my media a project into one main folder on my hard drive – all the captured raw video goes into a subfolder called “Captures.” Still images if there are a lot of them get their own folder, media rendered from third party titlers, After Effects or 3D apps and “render to new track” files go into a folder called “Clips.” My veg files get saved into the root folder of the project. Audio effect are already saved in my Audio/music library folders.

    I do not use media manager as I find it of no value to me. I just preview the raw video files from the Vegas Explorer window and either drag them directly to the timeline or double click them into the Trimmer so I can grab a small part of the clip and put it on the timeline. (you can change your preferences to make a double click on the file go to trimmer)

    —————
    My Hardware:
    Core i7 2.67GHz; Nvidia GTX580, 12 gig RAM Win7 64bit.

    My Software:
    Vegas Pro V11 with Boris Continuum Complete 7, VASST Ultimate S; Bluff Titler; AE5; PhotoPaint and other stuff.

  • Neal Barlow

    February 3, 2012 at 3:22 am

    And just because variety is the spice of life. Here is how I break down projects.

    I do all my structuring outside of Vegas. I do a “Footage” with sub folders for Audio and Video. Then I do a “Project Files” for all my .veg, and Architect files, or even my After Effects work. I then have a folder called “Renders” for all rendered work. Then if I do a DVD, or Blu-ray I make folders called that that hold the finished images. I do a folder called “Artwork,” when I do any kind of Photoshop, Illustrator work. I find that if helps me to keep everything clean should I need to pull the drive and work on another computer. I took the idea from Andrew Kramer and built upon it.

    I’m currently editing my third short film and what I did for the footage on that is to create folders in the Video sub folder like “01,” or “02” for shot numbers, or I would call it something like “hallway” if it is some kind of b-roll or something that I need to identify by particular instead of script.

    Neal Barlow
    Owner and Original Man
    TWO MAN MOVIES
    twomanmovies.com

    The Cult Classic Returns in ZOMBIES DURING THIRD PERIOD: AGAIN

  • Elizabeth Thai

    February 9, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Thanks again for the contributions.

    I have a question now about naming. If you shoot a bunch of footage of different things in one day that could possibly go into different areas of your film or doc (for me it’s a documentary), do you choose to name the files descriptively like, “people in park 01, people in park 02” or do you name the files by the date they are taken?

    Thanks!

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