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[Rafael Amador]

Hi Martial.
[Martial Bachoffner] ” I think HDV is not accurate. “
No really. You work with a TC. To edit in MPG-2 used to be impossible no long ago. Editing applications and graphic platforms (QT) were not ready to manage it. This have really changed.
I’m working with EX-1 (MPG2) and you can edit at easy as DV. You just need a system with a bit more of performance.
Cheers,
rafael

Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.

[Martial Bachoffner]

You mean you convert the mpeg2 as DV?
Because when you work with mpeg2 on your timeline, you loose quality each time you play it back.
You NLE has to decode and encode each time.

I don’t think that HDV is appropriate for broadcast HD.
Here in Canada, CBC ask for a 4:4:4 file. HDV is only 4:2:0.

Regards,
Martial

Vancouver Island Final Cut Pro User Group
Martial Bachoffner
Founder and Administrator

[Rafael Amador]

Hi Martial,
GOP based codecs are always more difficult to manage that Intraframe.
This have nothing to do with any loose of quality. You can shoot HDV, edit HDV and print back to tape HDV without loosing a bit of your original shoot.
I don’t now in Canada, but in the rest of the world the main part of the pro work is done in 422.
HDV is in the lower scale of the MPG@ based formats, but today you can record MPG2 100Mbps, Intraframe,422.

Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.

[Martial Bachoffner]

Thanks Rafael,

I heard from other editors that when you edit HDV on your timeline, you loose quality each time you plaback. This is why when you capture you change the codec and you don’t edit natively in HDV.

Regards,
Martial

Vancouver Island Final Cut Pro User Group
Martial Bachoffner
Founder and Administrator

[Rafael Amador]

Not really Martial. As I said GOPs are always a bit more difficult to manage because logically managing individual images is easyer. But things have changed. Just a couple of years ago if you tried to open an MPG2 with QT you got the beach ball spinning for 2 or 3 minutes before the movie could be opened.
I was very reluctant to the MPG-2, now I work with an EX-1 and I’m really happy. No difference than working with DV and the quality is amazing.

Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.

[Martial Bachoffner]

I checked the spec of your camera and it’s a XDCAM, that’ different than HDV, far better quality.
As far I know, there is numerous version of MPEG2.

Thanks

Regards,
Martial

Vancouver Island Final Cut Pro User Group
Martial Bachoffner
Founder and Administrator

[Rafael Amador]

Yes. MPG-2 is great because is fully scalable. It will allows the quality that you want.
Until now nor the software neither the hardware has been ready to manage it. But things have really changed. You can go from camera to Bluray all the way in MPG-2. With your HDV you can get very good image working well in shooting and Post.
BTW, H264 is a format only for delivery. You better don’t bring H264 footage to FC, because the application start to do funny things.
Cheers,
Rafael

Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.