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  • Widescreen Matte Filter Issue

    Posted by Cody Hoerig on November 23, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    Hey all,

    I had a quick question that has been bugging me for a few months regarding FCP’s native widescreen matte filter.

    I am using this filter to crop 16:9 footage to 2:35:1, this is for a feature I am working on and the filter has been working great.

    One major problem I have run into is that for certain clips where I have videos and pictures key framed for a digital zoom or pan, the widescreen matte seems to be connected to the source media.

    So basically if i throw a matte on a clip and then say I want to key frame it to do a very slow zoom, when i do that zoom FCP actually treats it as if the matte and the video clip are one and zooms in onto the matte as well, thus ruining any specific aspect ratio (in this case 2:35:1) that i had.

    I have tried a bunch of different things like putting a slug with the matte on the video track above the clip in hopes that I could make FCP think the clip was independent of the matte.

    Can anyone shed some light on a technique or workaround that i can use to alleviate this problem?

    Thanks!

    Donal O kane replied 15 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 23, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    If you search this forum you will see this was covered recently.

  • Cody Hoerig

    November 23, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    OK, I actually did a search, looked around a little bit but couldn’t find any information, I will look around again, thanks for the heads up.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 23, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Type in widescreen matte in to the search bubble.

  • Andy Mees

    November 23, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    do your zoom on the clip then nest it and and add the matte to the nest
    or add a widescreen matte / generator above the clip rather than adding it as a filter to the clip itself
    there a third party widescreen/letterbox matte generator here https://www.lasserij.nl/home.asp?hst=6

  • Cody Hoerig

    November 23, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Thanks guys I think I might use that matte generator Andy. As I really don’t want to nest (doing a roundtrip in color)

    Also I found the thread Jeremy, the title of the thread threw me off at first which is why I brushed over it, but i found it.

    For those of you who stumble on this thread more info is here:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1109824#1109923

    Thanks guys!

  • Matt Lyon

    November 24, 2010 at 6:22 am

    To add yet another way of doing this to the pile:

    You can also do your panning and zooming using the “Perspective>Basic 3D” filter instead of via the motion tab. Make sure it is above your widescreen filter in the “Filters” tab.

    But I think the scaling quality of the “Basic 3D” filter is actually a little worse then the motion tab scaling. You should test for yourself before using this method!

    Matt Lyon
    Editor
    Toronto

  • Donal O kane

    November 26, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    I found the quickest and most reliable way (for me) was to do something similar to the above generator layer method.

    I used a 2.35 filter over a white square, exported as a photoshop file, opened in photoshop, selected the white and deleted so that you have a transparent background and then bring back into fcp and dropped it over the entire film.

    It might be my imagination, but I have always found this way renders faster than generators?

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