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  • widescreen format

    Posted by Tom Delacarey on September 28, 2008 at 1:37 am

    a few months ago, when doing a project, i tried to incorporate stills, but the screen was different for the video and the still, so i messed around with the settings. I got to a point where the screen would have a black border going around it (top, bottom, like ussual, but left and right as well). Somehow (dont remember how) i got it to work. I didnt do much on vegas for a really long time, and just a little while ago, i started editing a new project. The first thing i noticed was that in the preview screen instead of being widescreen, it was widescreen to an extreme: the top and bottom borders made up of about 2/3 of the whole screen. I thought, whatever, probably just some setting on the preview thingy, but when i rendered it stayed the same. I checked my video camera, but its set on 16:9 like it should be, and the footage on the camera is fine. the super squashed image just really annoys me. Any suggestions?

    thanks

    Mike Kujbida replied 17 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Mike Kujbida

    September 28, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Make sure your Project Properties are set to the correct mode.
    To get your stills to match, open the Pan/Crop window, right-click and select “Match Output Aspect”.
    This will result in the stills being cropped on the top and bottom to match the 16:9 format so it’ll be up to you where you want the cropping to occur (i.e. move the cropping up or down as desired).
    HTH.

  • John Rofrano

    September 28, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Does your camera really shoot 16:9 or does it just letterbox a into a 4:3 frame? (what model is it?) There were lots of early cameras that claimed to be 16:9 and they were not. They used this letterboxing trick to give you the illusion of 16:9 but they shot 4:3 with black bars top and bottom. If you dropped footage shot this way into a 16:9 project you would get black bars top, bottom, left, and right. (sound familiar?)

    When you drop your footage into the Vegas timeline, go into the Properties on the Media tab and see what the Pixel Aspect Ratio is. If the footage is NTSC DV widescreen then the PAR should be 1.2121. If the PAR is 0.9091 then it’s not true 16:9. Which is it? (PAL values will be 1.4568 and 1.0926 respectively)

    Finally, as Mike said, is your project set to DV Widescreen (assuming this is a DV camera and not HDV). Dropping DV widescreen footage into a DV widescreen project should fill the frame perfectly with no black bars anywhere.

    ~jr

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  • Tom Delacarey

    September 28, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Yeah, what you said, i checked, and its all correct. I had to change one of the properties settings because i guess i had accidentally changed it previously. This made the little preview screen have the correct format, but when i render, the same thing happens. Is there a seperate properties tab for rendering?

  • Mike Kujbida

    September 28, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    [tom Delacarey] “Is there a seperate properties tab for rendering?”

    If it’s AVI or MPEG-2 that you’re rendering to, widescreen templates are available in the dropdown box in the “Render As” window.

  • Tom Delacarey

    September 28, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    yeah i know, i do all that, but it still gets messed up. And now that i look more closely, even though the preview thing is less squashed, it still looks somewhat squashed. Almost like a television picture when they film non widescreen, and adapt to widescreen, but i checked, and double checked, and i can be positive that i filmed on 16:9.

  • Tom Delacarey

    September 28, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    oh, and whats the difference between best auto and best full on the preview screen?

  • Mike Kujbida

    September 28, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Have you tried burning it to a DVD and watching it on a widescreen TV set to see if you still have the problem?

    The preview window settings are just for the image quality in that window.
    The “Frame” and Display” readings at the bottom right of thr window will tell you what’s happening.
    I have my Preview Window set to “Simulate Device Aspect Ratio” and “Scale Video to fit Preview Window”.
    These options are found by right-clicking in the Preview window.

    If you have a lot of FX in your project, you may not be able to preview it at Best/Full.
    A lot of us run it in Preview/Auto mode so that we can see renders quicker.
    If it’s a critical segment that you want to see rendered, do a RAM render (Shift+B) on a portion of it.

  • Tom Delacarey

    September 28, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    i couldnt find “scale video to fit preview window” but i have “simulate device aspect ratio. the info on the bottom right says: project: 720x 480; 29.970. Preview: 180×120; 29.970. Display: 218x120x32. Is that all good? and does this have any relation to how it comes out once rendered? So the rendered project could be messed up but the burned project can still come out right?

  • Tom Delacarey

    September 28, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    i guess, what im basically asking is: what could make a video appear like it was filmed non- widescreen, and was put onto a widescreen rendering, when it was infact filmed widescreen? Are there any settings that could conflict with each other to cause this problem?

  • Tom Delacarey

    September 28, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    ok i looked on help, and it said that i should render to mpeg2 for dvd architect, which helped with the video for some reason (only slightly) but its missing audio. Whats the best way to render for dvd architect?

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