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Why Thunderbolt drives are taking so long to come to market – Larry Jordan explains
Where is Thunderbolt? – Larry Jordan
https://www.larryjordan.biz/app_bin/wordpress/archives/1655So it seems Apple got Thunderbolt out the before all the hardware and developers tools were in place. It seems to be Apple’s pattern for 2011.
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LaCie has mounted their first Thunderbolt in their smaller enclosures, the Little Big Disk.
It may be something related with the exclusivity that Jordan comments.
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[Craig Seeman] “So it seems Apple got Thunderbolt out the before all the hardware and developers tools were in place. It seems to be Apple’s pattern for 2011.”
My favorite quotes from the article:
- “Once the hardware has been figured out, the SDK (software development kit) necessary to support Thunderbolt was several months late coming to market – most drive vendors didn’t get them until early summer.”
- “Thunderbolt requires significant support from Apple and Intel engineering to explain how the new system works so that RAID manufacturers can get their systems to interconnect properly with this new protocol.”
- “I was told that some vendors were given market exclusivity for a year after the announcement.”
You’re right about the pattern — the parallels with Apple’s FCPX developer relations are striking.
Why the rushes to market before lining up their partners?
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The timing of all this most likely impacts the timing of whatever replaces the Mac Pro, as well. Definitely if it’s heavily tied to TBolt peripherals and storage.
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I’m definitely in no hurry and in my experience it’s always a good idea to wait a while when new technologies come out. You get better products and it’s a much less frustrating experience. IMO TB is just a new way to do what you can already do so if you have a big investment in PCI based stuff there is simply no need to bother with it at least until you buy your next system.
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If I had a Mac Pro with Thunderbolt, I’m not sure I would use a Thunderbolt product. The few I’ve seen (including the ones that haven’t shipped yet) are Thunderbolt only. No USB, Firewire or eSATA. How much and what kind of data do you want to put on a large storage device that has only one interface with a rather limited installed base?
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Just got a LaCie Little Big Disk Thunderbolt and about to start playing with it. I’m looking forward to Rugged though. I think they’ll clean up the market with Thunderbolt in that form factor.
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We purchased the Promise Pegasus R6 12TB (6x2TB) RAID running on a Mac Mini Server. After installation we found out that the Promise management software is not yet ready for Lion. Dang thing is fast! Even in RAID 5 we are seeing speeds of 700+- MB/s write and 500+- MB/s read.
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My favorite quote is when Larry says:
“…because Apple and Intel do not have unlimited engineering support staff, not all RAID vendors were able to access the engineering help they needed in a timely fashion. So, some vendors are farther along in their development than others are.”
It’s no wonder this country is in a deep recession; when a corporation with more money in its coffers than the U.S. treasury won’t hire the help they need to get the job done, we’re all in big trouble.
Randy Ubillos was probably given a slim budget for FCP X that was a fraction of what was required, and the old adage, “You get what you pay for” applies.
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The key point to Thunderbolt is the PCI is limited to MacPro.
Thunderbolt versions would be able to connect to ANY Mac computer include MacBookAir and MacMini.Imagine, for example, having a Thunderbolt bus powered Video I/O that you can move from computer to computer as needed. Blackmagic Intensity Extreme does that for example. Imagine being able to use your Matrox MXO2 with other Macs in addition to MacPro and MacBookPro 17″ with Express port. You can do that now.
As to PCI, imagine adding a PCI expansion box to your iMac or MacBookPro so you can use your PCI cards. That’s one of those “on the way” things from Sonnet and Magma some people are impatient about.
Add a Thunderbolt Mac monitor to a MacBookAir and you now have USB, Firewire, Ethernet ports as well.
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[Walter Soyka] “Why the rushes to market before lining up their partners?”
Maybe it’s just a continuation of the Apple habit of generating exceptional value by DRIVING the market rather than reacting to it?
Part of that Gretzky/Jobsian tradition of skating to where the puck will be — is that you’re more likely to own the best corner and have your store established up before the folks start arriving in flocks?
Just wondering out loud.
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