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  • Michael Gissing

    July 7, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Olof,

    Glancing around the machine room of my facility I see a lot of hardware and software that has been and gone. I also see my audio systems, dSP and now Fairlight, that never had the enforced legacy policy that Apple has introduced with FCP X. I have never had software ‘updates’ that couldn’t open old projects.

    History matters and the inability to revisit is a problem that will continue. So I have a G5 sitting in the corner with both FCP 5.1.4 and FCP 6.0.6 on two bootable drives – frozen in time. I now have a MacPro with 7.0.3 which I now have to freeze. This has been the price of using Apple software and hardware which I have to factor into my business plan.

    So no panic here, just a disappointment that my investment is once again at a dead end and I have to transition to a new app. As I am at the grading/ onlining/ sound post end I do have to worry about functional workflows. FCP X will make a difficult job much harder as people blindly rush in and start projects on software that is too insular.

    Paranoia? We all have to have surety about our livelihoods. Trying to second guess one of the most secretive companies is bound to create a sense of panic and paranoia. If you have the luxury of settling back for six months to watch the train wreck that people like me have to go through to support editors, then don’t bother calling our need to make hard fast decision on scant information either panic or paranoia. Have a little respect for those in the front carriages who will cushion your experience.

  • Christian Kinnard

    July 7, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    [Chris Kenny] “What bugs me is that people keep saying, basically, “There’s something wrong with this app” when what they really mean is “This app doesn’t fit the editing style I’ve developed over years of using apps that work differently”.”

    But the point is where this app is taking the industry. So, my problem isn’t “how it fits my personal workflow”, but to push the industry forward you have to bring people with you. I’m saying I can’t come along, because my projects and the people affiliated with me aren’t coming along. This has nothing to do with my lack of desire to change (which I’ve said before). I however am attached to other people and their workflows. Even if they are unusual circumstances, I want the ability to adapt. In fact, each director I work with want to work completely differently, I’m constantly adapting, I don’t think one project is ever the same.

    You don’t seem to want to hear that. You seem to think that editing is one man and a computer. But to quote you “But whatever. Meta-debating is always boring. I’m done with this particular exchange.”

  • David Roth weiss

    July 7, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    [Matt Callac] “It’s argumentation…EVERYONE cherry picks. It’s how people build a case for anything they believe/hope for/have faith in.”

    Sorry Matt, but you’re clearly not paying attention closely enough. I have only called Mr. Kenny out a few times, but there is a very clear pattern that he exhibits, which is different from others.

    Instead of diluting my message, I invite you to do some selective “mining” of the airwaves here for those select times when I’ve specifically pointed out problems with Mr. Kenny’s style, and then come back if you wish and we’ll chat about the matter some more.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    Don’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
    https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.

  • Matt Callac

    July 8, 2011 at 12:57 am

    [David Roth Weiss]
    Sorry Matt, but you’re clearly not paying attention closely enough.”

    That may very well be. I have not read every post on this forum. But I have noticed other people “reading the tea leaves” and then calling others out for doing the same thing. Has Chris done this more than other people? Most likely just by sheer volume. He’s posted more comments in this forum than any other poster.

    When people have an opinion about something they look for the things that validate that opinion which often causes them to be blind to other things that contradict that opinion.

    All I’m saying is that He’s not the only one on the forum who’s doing the stuff that you’re accusing him of. He may be the loudest one, but he’s not the only one.

    If there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Chris is wasting his time posting so much. He’s not going to change anyone’s mind about anything. Everyone is right in their own mind.

    And I’m sorry if I detracted from your point…but I’m pretty sure it still came across loud and clear there and in the other places you’ve placed it.

    -mattyc

  • Scott Sheriff

    July 8, 2011 at 1:52 am

    [Matt Callac] “But I have noticed other people “reading the tea leaves” and then calling others out for doing the same thing. Has Chris done this more than other people?”

    Yes.

    Scott Sheriff
    Director
    https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

    “If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair

    Where were you on 6/21?

  • Gary Hazen

    July 8, 2011 at 11:50 am

    [Matt Callac] “If there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Chris is wasting his time posting so much. He’s not going to change anyone’s mind about anything. Everyone is right in their own mind.”

    I agree that he’s wasting his time. He believes that it’s his mission in life is to correct everyone’s opinions about FCPX. It’s one thing to have a spirited discussion, but trying to beat down every post that is critical of Apple is bordering on an unhealthy obsession.

  • Herb Sevush

    July 8, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    I’ve never found Chris to be nasty or rude, he’s entitled to his opinions. If you don’t like them, don’t read them.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Tombabauta

    July 8, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Hi Dave,

    Not sure if you’re reading me right. Im merely expressing the fact that despite the obvious evidence of Apple’s abandonment/disregard of the current [not future] professional market, so many people still blindly seem to think that all that will change. This is the route Apple has chosen and it is the same route they will keep on trekking, the route that leads to the prosumer and consumer market.

    I am a disgruntled professional editor and I do use use broadcast monitors, metadata exchange with a professional color grading suite, and I still do deliver to tapes.

    Oh, and I don’t get your comment about my posts in youtube, as I don’t upload on youtube really.

    Cheers.

    Tom

  • David Roth weiss

    July 8, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “I’ve never found Chris to be nasty or rude, he’s entitled to his opinions. If you don’t like them, don’t read them.

    Hey Herb,

    Just so you know, every post on this forum comes across my desk, it’s the way the mechanism works. If you don’t read them all you’re probably unable to see the patterns that develop. It’s not about opinions, I’ve made that clear. Feel free to go back over M. Kenny’s posts for the last three weeks and read them all, and then I’ll discuss the reasons he’s been warned more than once.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    Don’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
    https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.

  • Misha Aranyshev

    July 9, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    [Chris Kenny] “What bugs me is that people keep saying, basically, “There’s something wrong with this app” when what they really mean is “This app doesn’t fit the editing style I’ve developed over years of using apps that work differently”.”

    Oh, crap! When so many people say “this app doesn’t fit my editing style” and all those people have very different editing styles it means “there is something very wrong with the app”.

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