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Why does Panic and Paranoia Rule some “Pros”?
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[Michael Aranyshev] “Oh, crap! When so many people say “this app doesn’t fit my editing style” and all those people have very different editing styles it means “there is something very wrong with the app”.”
That doesn’t follow. All of those editing styles, pretty much, are adapted to traditional project-based footage organization and multitrack timelines. A car doesn’t fit any of the different horseback riding styles.
FCP X hasn’t been around for long enough for anyone to really have a fully developed editing style that’s adapted to the way it works yet.
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Here is the new car.
It doesn’t have an engine, so it isn’t a car.
No, you just haven’t figured out how to make it move yet.
But it doesn’t have an engine.
Engines are the old the old way of thinking.
Ok, so how does this thing move.
Who says it has to move?
I do, that’s how I get places.
Not everyone has to get places.
well, I do
well, this car isn’t for you then.
But professionals need to get places.
You are insulting those people who don’t need to get places by implying they are not professional.
But getting places is the whole point of a car and this car can’t get me places.
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[Chris Kenny] “A car doesn’t fit any of the different horseback riding styles.”
Sure. Now please tell me how many keystrokes will it take to change one take for another in an edited scene keeping the overall duration of the shot and the scene in FCPX?
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[Michael Aranyshev] “Sure. Now please tell me how many keystrokes will it take to change one take for another in an edited scene keeping the overall duration of the shot and the scene in FCPX?”
One, assuming the clip you want to replace is already selected.
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[Chris Kenny] “FCP X hasn’t been around for long enough for anyone to really have a fully developed editing style that’s adapted to the way it works yet.”
Precisely right!
You have 2-million editors using a tool that’s flexible and adaptable to anyone’s style or to a style dictated by a project if that’s more desirable, and you replace it with a tool that requires all 2-million users to adapt to a new and more rigid style that bears no resemblance to what they “need” or think they need, and the 2-million are all wrong?
It’s the classic example of a solution looking for a need.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
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Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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Well, I guess you have different FCPX than everyone else.
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[David Roth Weiss] “You have 2-million editors using a tool that’s flexible and adaptable to anyone’s style or to a style dictated by a project if that’s more desirable, and you replace it with a tool that requires all 2-million users to adapt to a new and more rigid style that bears no resemblance to what they “need” or think they need, and the 2-million are all wrong?
“It’s really kind of ludicrous that you constantly try to call me out for supposedly using shady debating tactics, and here you are implying two million people you don’t know all agree with you.
In any event, I do not agree with your contention that the new editing paradigm FCP X introduces is ‘more rigid’. If anything, it’s substantially less rigid. Keywords are much more flexible than strictly hierarchical bin-based footage organization, and the new timeline is much more freeform than a traditional multitrack timeline, both in the sense that it’s harder to ‘break’ the edit because of new ripping and collision behaviors (which makes it easy to freely rearrange clips), and in the sense that clips don’t have to exist on rigidly defined tracks.
You’re making what I think is a very common mistake in this discussion. Exposed to a new paradigm, it’s common for people to notice what’s worse about it, because they expect to be able to do X and find out they can’t… but not notice what’s better about it, because they don’t think to try Y and Z, which are now supported, because they’ve never been able to do Y and Z before. And even once people are told about Y and Z, they don’t see the point initially, because figuring out how to use Y and Z effectively takes a while.
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[Michael Aranyshev] “Well, I guess you have different FCPX than everyone else.”
What does option-R do on your version? On mine it performs a Replace from Start Edit on the clip selected in the timeline.
I really think about half of the “FCP X is designed for consumers” stuff would go away if more people just opened up the command editor….
There isn’t one by default, but you can also assign a shortcut to Replace from End. Plus, of course, you can perform various types of replace edits by dragging a clip from the browser and dropping it on a clip in the sequence. Add in Auditions, and smarter rippling behavior when you want it, and it’s hard to argue that FCP X isn’t substantially better at replace operations than FCP 7.
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[Chris Kenny] “here you are implying two million people you don’t know all agree with you.
“Did you miss the work “all” in my question? I asked if the 2-million were “all” wrong. That’s far from stating either that 1) they are all in agreement, or 2) they agree with me.
Is this over your head? Or, is it just another one of your superfluous arguments?
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Did you miss the work “all” in my question? I asked if the 2-million were “all” wrong. That’s far from stating either that 1) they are all in agreement, or 2) they agree with me.
Is this over your head? Or, is it just another one of your superfluous arguments?”
Asking me if they’re all wrong implies that they all disagree with me, because obviously I wouldn’t consider the ones who agree with me to be wrong.
By the way, I can’t hep but notice that you completely ignored the substance of my post in favor of picking a fight over a single word.
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Digital Workflow/Colorist, Nice Dissolve.You should follow me on Twitter here. Or read our blog.
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