Why cant adobe have the best of both

[Andy Field]

I’d like both, but have been on CC for months and it’s terrific – and as we upgrade with every new version, it’s a bargain – you get EVERYTHING they make –

for most of us we’re only interested in PP Audition Photoshop and AE — if you upgraded each separately as stand alone license – it would take you several years of amortizing all those costs to match the bargain you get with the cloud (and they’ll have already innovated new versions in the meantime)

— we’re already using Web products we never imagined using because we can explore and use them for “free” as part of the subscription.

Abobe’s invested 10’s of millions in product development and received 0 dollars for that development until they offer it for sale. Smart businesses maximize ROI….those of us who do this for a living do ..why not Adobe — I’ll happily be a CC subscriber.

Andy Field
FieldVision Productions
N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

[Sandeep Sajeev]

[Joseph.W.Burke] Ahhh…that’s why everyone has heard of Pixelmator and no one knows what Adobe Photoshop is. You can’t fault them for trying to cash in, though…

They’re a small team that publish an extremely elegant, easy to use Image editing app. For most image editing tasks that editors need to perform, it is more than capable.

I love it, it’s fast, slick and very user friendly. I have been using it instead of Photoshop for almost 2 years. I only go into PS when something comes across with Layer Styles, as this doesn’t translate in Pixelmator. Once it does, it will be a good alternative for video editors.

I like that they responded. You’re mocking them here, but when X came out, Adobe did exactly the same thing. Personally, I’m all for supporting the little guys. We’ve seen the flipside a bit too much in the last couple of years.

[Shawn Miller]

[Craig Seeman] “So where does one go? Avid’s an NLE. It doesn’t replace After Effects or Photoshop.
Apple gives Motion a serious going over?
Pixelmator development increases?”

Hopefully! I think it would be good if Apple provided a serious challenger to AE. It would be even better if a smaller, hungrier company came up with a compelling, cross-platform alternative. Maybe Sony and FXHome will get there some day. It looks like they’re at least trying.

https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/hitfilm_vegas_movie_studio_integration

Shawn

[Shawn Miller]

[Sandeep Sajeev] “Once it does, it will be a good alternative for video editors.”

As long as they’re on a Mac… 🙂 If the idea is to buck “Big Brother”, and democratize the tool, why not offer a cross platform solution?

Shawn

[Sandeep Sajeev]

[Shawn Miller] As long as they’re on a Mac… 🙂 If the idea is to buck “Big Brother”, and democratize the tool, why not offer a cross platform solution?

You’re right of course, apologies, I totally forgot that they were Mac only. It’s a shame, as it really is a cracking tool.

[Shawn Miller]

[Sandeep Sajeev] “[Shawn Miller] As long as they’re on a Mac… 🙂 If the idea is to buck “Big Brother”, and democratize the tool, why not offer a cross platform solution?

You’re right of course, apologies, I totally forgot that they were Mac only. It’s a shame, as it really is a cracking tool.”

Crap, I suspected that it was. I do understand that they’re a small shop though, and that cross platform support might not be high on the agenda. I guess I’ll add Pixelmator to the list of applications that I wish were available on Windows. Does PM support OpenEXR yet? I remember VFX artists were asking for this years ago.

Shawn

[Andrew Richards]

[Shawn Miller] “why not offer a cross platform solution?”

I think one of the reasons the Pixelmator team has been able to build such a mature image editor so quickly with such a (relatively) small team is they take advantage of the frameworks in OS X to get a lot of image handling power “for free”. If they were to go cross platform, they’s need to implement all that stuff they get from Core Image themselves. They’d basically need to start all over in something other than Cocoa Objective-C if they wanted to be cross-paltform.

Best,
Andy

[Sandeep Sajeev]

No support for OpenEXR yet. Stuff like this is where the difference between the tools becomes clear.

[Craig Seeman]

[Herb Sevush] “but they do this by reducing market share “

To?
Avid?
FCPX?
Motion?
Pixelmator?

That’s why I mentioned the “competitors.”

Sometimes marketshare isn’t as important as the bottom line. More regular paying customers with more paying for upgrades since it’s built in.

[Herb Sevush] “The more people that use an NLE, the larger the ecosystem”

Certainly that’s true for third party developers who want to sell more to a wider user base. Again, where are people going to go though?

[Herb Sevush] “If you are correct about their reasoning then they are very short sighted.”

Not a direct comparison but some would say Apple is more concerned with profit than market share which is why Samsung sells many phones.

[Shawn Miller]

[Andrew Richards] “[Shawn Miller] “why not offer a cross platform solution?”

I think one of the reasons the Pixelmator team has been able to build such a mature image editor so quickly with such a (relatively) small team is they take advantage of the frameworks in OS X to get a lot of image handling power “for free”. If they were to go cross platform, they’s need to implement all that stuff they get from Core Image themselves. They’d basically need to start all over in something other than Cocoa Objective-C if they wanted to be cross-paltform.”

Fair enough, thanks Andy.

Shawn