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Why cant adobe have the best of both
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Here’s a composite:
[Walter Soyka] “they think they have all the leverage they need to squeeze every last drop of profit from the creative community, and …
they actually believe that providing good products and integrated services to the creative community better meets the challenges of modern production than the current product-only model, and that by making a compelling offering at a fair price, people will actually be willing to pay for it.”
It’s industrialism 101. There’s a class of workers who require inputs to be productive. The supplier of those inputs controls prices. The reasonableness in a contemporary capitalist market system requires a fair price but also that the supplier has some capital at risk. In theory, Adobe could fire every single employee and dissolve the research and development teams, yet we could still rent their software in perpetuity for increasingly higher but reasonable rents.
Here’s the sign to watch: https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/adbe
For the record: the stock is valued at $45.602 5/7/13 4 PM PDT.
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[Walter Soyka] “I really don’t think that CC is just a new way of paying for CS. I think there’s going to be a lot more to it than that a couple versions hence”
Then they should have waited till then to drop all other modes of distribution.
It’s really amazing that they made the exact same mistake as Apple and now they’re surprised at the results. If they had simply announced that this will be the last year they were going to offer perpetual licenses the results would have been orders of magnitude different. But no — first they excite everyone with the new offerings and then announce that to get them you “have to” change your entire way of doing business. No lead time, no time to create acceptance and answer questions, just wham bahm thank you ma’am. As though the stupidity of this approach hasn’t already been demonstrated here.
They’ve just taken 2 years worth of good will and thrown it out the window. And I say all this irrespective of the merits to CC – doesn’t matter whether it’s genius or greed – the morons who thought up this marketing triumph are to be admired — it’s hard to be that dumb.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
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So here we are on an Apple product thread, in effect discussing something truly innovative. Innovative is what Apple’s been known for. I think the whole CC offering is truly innovative. It will give you something you didn’t even KNOW you needed.
Given their history, this is something Apple should have done with FCPX/Motion/Compressor/Pages/Numbers/Keynote/whatever.
No hyperbole here. Hey CC, have a seat next to the iPod.
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[Walter Soyka] “Here’s one possibility: they think they have all the leverage they need to squeeze every last drop of profit from the creative community, and they intend to leave it bloodless and destroyed in a few years with no long-term plan for the continued existence of their company after devouring all their customers, vampire-style.
Here’s another: they actually believe that providing good products and integrated services to the creative community better meets the challenges of modern production than the current product-only model, and that by making a compelling offering at a fair price, people will actually be willing to pay for it.
“Whoops! I pushed option one by mistake, and there’s no “back” button.
Yes, I did get a good laugh.
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[Paul Neumann] ” I think the whole CC offering is truly innovative. It will give you something you didn’t even KNOW you needed.”
Or make you pay for something you will never need in order to get something you want. Yes, it sounds very Apple like and I don’t mean that as a compliment.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Ahhh…that’s why everyone has heard of Pixelmator and no one knows what Adobe Photoshop is. You can’t fault them for trying to cash in, though…
Joe Bourke
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Herb –
It may be something you don’t want or need, but it sure as hell is something I want, need, and earn my living with. I’m not trying to speak for everyone…just myself.
Joe Bourke
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Nobody NEEDED 2000 songs on a device in their pocket…
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I think its plain racketeering 101. But also a very stupid move. that still doent makw sense.
Richard
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I still don’t need 2000 songs in my pocket…
Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
http://www.bourkemedia.com
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