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  • Why 3 frames out of Sync on capture

    Posted by Glyn Bowerman on April 13, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    I have been using a Mac pro with an AJA Io for the past 5 years with no problems.

    We have just upgraded to a new MacPro with an AJA Io HD & FCP 7

    When I capture through the AJA to ProRes it is 3 frames out of sync, very slight but noticable.

    I turned of the AJA and did a straight Firewire capture and this was also 3 frames out of sync

    Any ideas why?

    Thanks

    Glyn Bowerman replied 16 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    April 13, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    See this answer from yesterday:
    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1082619

    David Roth Weiss
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  • Michael Gissing

    April 13, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    3 Frames is gross not slight. Audio pros agonize over sub frames. It drives me nuts that my LCD has a half frame latency and I can only compensate playback delay in frames.

  • David Roth weiss

    April 13, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    [Michael Gissing] “udio pros agonize over sub frames.”

    Michael,

    My editing mentor of nearly thirty years has always said to me that, “an edit that’s one frame off is a bad edit.”

    I’m gonna have to call him now and tell him that he got it all wrong, that he should have said, “an edit that’s one sample off is a bad edit.”

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    EPK Colorist – UP IN THE AIR – nominated for six academy awards

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Michael Gissing

    April 13, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “”an edit that’s one sample off is a bad edit.””

    That’s a bit harsh. There are 2000 samples per PAL frame so I would say +- 500 samples for sync. For a dialog edit, yes we go right down to the sample level to fix clicks or take to edge off a plosive.

  • Glyn Bowerman

    April 14, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Hi David

    I’ve checked my old system and it was set to 4 and sync issues were never a problem. Why would it be the case now?
    By having it offset to 4 what does this achieve? Does it offset it on the timeline as it plays out?

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