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  • Craig Seeman

    March 5, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “Crack a smile. You can do it.”

    I was smiling didn’t you see it? 😉
    Oh that’s a wink, sorry.

  • Bernard Newnham

    March 5, 2013 at 9:34 pm

    I’ve asked, as I don’t know. Please stand by….

    B

    Bernie

  • Christian Schumacher

    March 5, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    You’re missing a big point here, who’s to say corporate/web video isn’t produced with the same standards as in broadcast? Sure there are many small ones around but I do know of a production company that cranks out awarded feature films, high-end commercials and international cable shows and they started producing corporate/web videos in 2010. Eventually, additional personnel were hired to work on these other kinds of projects and that team is now comprised of writers, music composers, directors, senior editors, assistants, motion graphics artists, colorists, producers, etc. Actually, the department grew over time due to the success of this enterprise, in which quality of the content played a major role, mind you. It’s all run like documentaries or TV shows are, really. No change there, except for the not-so-crazy-deadlines, reduced budget and also the smaller scope of the projects themselves, even though most are international. But post production speaking now, it’s fiber and some dozens of macpros mostly as FCS seats, and just starting the process of heading everything back to AVID. That is a global assessment of the NLE use within this company, not only corporate. Could all the king’s horses and all the king’s men put FCP together again? Specially if the next macpro is indeed a flop, no way IMO.

  • Gary Huff

    March 6, 2013 at 12:00 am

    [Christian Schumacher] “Specially if the next macpro is indeed a flop, no way IMO.”

    If the next Mac Pro is an iMac design with a single Xeon CPU and a Quadro M GPU, will it be a flop?

  • Andrew Kimery

    March 6, 2013 at 12:08 am

    I’m inclined to agree with Craig that a high school level class might be using the term ‘broadcast’ in a very loose sense but I think that’s beside the point.

    IMO a HS curriculum shouldn’t be overly concerned with the tools as I don’t think any college program is going to tell a kid, “Oh, you don’t know NLE XYZ? Sorry, we can’t accepted you into our program.” Plus, from a professional standpoint, the landscape could be totally different by the time the students graduate college and get into the workplace. Teach the fundamentals of production (which are applicable regardless of which camera you shoot with or which NLE you cut with) and get kids into work study or internship programs with local production facilities.

    For juniors or seniors in college I can see the value in trying to get them exposed to software and hardware that they most likely will encounter once they hit the job market but for HS students I think it’s too soon to worry about that kind of thing.

  • Christian Schumacher

    March 6, 2013 at 2:48 am

    [Gary Huff] ” If the next Mac Pro is an iMac design with a single Xeon CPU and a Quadro M GPU, will it be a flop?”

    This would be indeed a good transitional product for professionals who still can afford to go Apple, and would give FCPX a magnificent uplift, I believe. (As long as it runs Final Cut Studio without a glitch HA!) A more concrete flop would be a no-show, obviously. IMO as it stands today, even with a theoretical iMacPro, FCPX is good only for small and medium sized productions which are mostly self-contained. In my example that wouldn’t work much for two reasons, it won’t be very serviceable and Thunderbolt ecosystem is scarce, expensive and limited. Note that most of Mac Pros in that company have to run 24/7 and do have to outsource some of their processes like 3D, composing, mixing, coloring, sharing, finishing, etc Yet these machines are optimised and fully speced for heavy use, some with internal RAIDs, some with special GPUs, PCI cards, Monitors, etc. And many play double, triple, your call. That’s the paradigm shift, the magnetic timeline is a mere poster child of this epic play. Out in the field I see Mac Pros running FCStudio (perhaps some 2011 iMacs running 10.0.5 and 2012 iMacs running 10.0.8 and 2013 iMacPros running 10.0.10 oh! It will be fun! You know, plug-in and Resolve compatibility)

  • Joseph W. bourke

    March 6, 2013 at 3:54 am

    I think Andrew has a good point – in my experience at a broadcast station, we took in interns from a few regional colleges who were strong on a “broadcast” oriented education. We never expected them to know the equipment – the software maybe (Photoshop, maybe AE) – but they came to the station to learn the equipment we had, and many of them were subsequently hired.

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Bill Davis

    March 6, 2013 at 4:54 am

    [Christian Schumacher] “Specially if the next macpro is indeed a flop, no way IMO.

    Wow, nice to know that a thing that nobody outside the internal Apple labs has a single clue about is already getting spun as “a flop.”

    It’s SO important, after all, not to actually wait for real things and judge them on their merits, but to allow your opinions to be pre-set by definitionally clueless internet posts.

    At least we can all rest now. The unveiled new MacPro is a total failure. I read it on Creative Cow before it was released – so it MUST be true.

    Which talk show host last week was making people look incredibly dumb via “man on the street” style interviews asking them about the Oscar results a few days BEFORE the telecast?

    Nice standard for our favorite forum.

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  • Chris Harlan

    March 6, 2013 at 5:23 am

    [Bill Davis] “[Christian Schumacher] “Specially if the next macpro is indeed a flop, no way IMO.

    Wow, nice to know that a thing that nobody outside the internal Apple labs has a single clue about is already getting spun as “a flop.”

    Huh? You do understand the conditional implications of the word “if”–right?

  • Bill Davis

    March 6, 2013 at 6:01 am

    [Chris Harlan] “Huh? You do understand the conditional implications of the word “if”–right?”

    I do Chris,

    I also undersand the implications of the word “indeed” – which presumes a factual basis for the concept. (synonyms: truly, factually, etc.) Without that word, I’d agree with you. But with it, the OP implies the concept is based in fact.

    Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.

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