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  • Chris Harlan

    March 5, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “If you define the term “industry” you may be able to define the commonly used NLEs within it.”

    May I suggest that you take a look at the name of the program: Television Broadcasting Production and Technology

    If the name is accurate, I would suggest Avid and maybe Premiere.

  • Andy Field

    March 5, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    Agree with Shane – local stations are either using Edius or Avid – with a smattering of FCP 7 –

    Some (including Saturday Night Live and Conan) are now using Premiere Pro

    no where in the “for hire – use our equipment” market have i found a single instance of FCP X. Doesn’t make it a bad program…just little or no demand now coming up on two years of it being on the market

    Sure it’s fine for one man band operations and boutique agencies that have found it useful in Promo and short form workflows (with a number of work around dealing with primary tracks and audio mixing)

    Bottom Line – you need to know virtually everything today – if you are a production editor for hire -you need to be at least proficient in

    After Effects
    Premiere Pro
    AVID
    FCP 7 (doesn’t seem to be disappearing)

    Edius is useful at the local news level as well as Grass Valley Aurora’s System….but either of those are a quick learn if you know the others

    Andy Field
    FieldVision Productions
    N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

  • Craig Seeman

    March 5, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    As I said, many curriculum use that as a catch all phrase. It’s a lot sexier than Video Production and I can’t say I see many called Corporate video despite the fact that there are many more jobs in that area.

  • Gary Huff

    March 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “As I said, many curriculum use that as a catch all phrase. I”

    Seriously, Craig, come on now.

  • Shane Ross

    March 5, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “As I said, many curriculum use that as a catch all phrase.”

    Then you are using it wrong. Television Broadcasting means programming broadcast to televisions. Over the airwaves. Not a DVD you put into a DVD player and then…hey, it’s on the TV! People who get into a television broadcast class intend to work in broadcast television. it doesn’t always work out…and even those of us in broadcast TV do a lot of work that isn’t broadcast….corporate video, sizzle reels, actor demos, web videos.

    The terminology is clear. If you mean VIDEO PRODUCTION, then say it. If I was a student and took a broadcast television class, and it didn’t focus on actual broadcast television…I’d complain about false advertising.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Craig Seeman

    March 5, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    Seriously if they want students to be employable it would be good to cover the industry rather than just one niche. Back when I was in high school our “Broadcast” class was really Video (we didn’t have “Broadcast” equipment although maybe Umatic was broadcast after all).

  • Craig Seeman

    March 5, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    [Shane Ross] “Then you are using it wrong. Television Broadcasting means programming broadcast to televisions. Over the airwaves”

    In High School often Television Broadcasting is actually VIdeo Production… it was in my case. Most High Schools don’t have Broadcast equipment. College is more of a mixed bag.

  • Chris Harlan

    March 5, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Man, you are working overtime to get X into this conversation. You KNOW its not goin’ in unless you redefine the given terms. I’m sure that among the many curricula that offer “Broadcast Television,” there are a few that are mislabeled, but to assume that it is so from the outset does not seem reasonable.

  • Chris Harlan

    March 5, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “Most High Schools don’t have Broadcast equipment.”

    Really? I’m shocked. You are just going to keep beating this? C’mon, man. Crack a smile. You can do it.

  • Craig Seeman

    March 5, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “Man, you are working overtime to get X into this conversation.”

    I haven’t mentioned X at all. I don’t think I’ve even mentioned it in passing. Like occasional threads in this forum it’s an industry discussion. As the subject says “Prepare a Student for College and Industry” which is really what these high school classes are about as opposed to “Broadcast” specifically.

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